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[jpkunk]

ok

I guess I shouldnt have said "who cares", but i could care less about 40cps, will i really able to use that in a game. yea i might not be able to shoot that fast on my mag, but i love my mag, and i happy with it.

[srrdude]

thats cool i respect that. I thinnk if he puts modified trigers in it around 30 cps will b attainable.

[Timmee]

In my mind, cps is worthless. BPS is what matters to me. A blowback marker can cycle at insane rates, but are they full cycles? Does the hatch COMPLETELY open every cycle? It was originally claimed 50 cps, then 40 cps, now you say, "I thinnk if he puts modified trigers in it around 30 cps will b attainable". Why the drop in numbers?

[srrdude]

50 was mathematical. 40 was tested. But can you pull 40? The guy before me asked if he could ever shoot 40 in a game. I said not, but if u had a magno trigger and put a crap load of rollers on it u could get near 30. Please read completely before u ask questions. If you just didnt understand thats cool. 30 is just my opinion for how fast maximum someone could shoot (a stretch of course)

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

I think 30 is maybe a little out of reach. I think 20 would be hard but could be reached. 30 is really fast. That's a lot of paint. I just don't think that it can be done without a FA board.

[srrdude]

it may seem farfetched.. but havent u seen the 25 bps timmy videos? on semmy auto. With an equalizer.. the same board that the alien has. I think that if its magnetic and it has 3 rollers it could be done. But with a fa board i bet it could do 40.. if a hopper could keep up. The corkscrew will only be able to do 35 so...yeah. This is just my opinion tho. The highest ive ever gotten was bout 23 on my LXRT. I had the pressure jacked to bout 1000+. Very dangerous so i only did it once. Typically i only hit 16 or so. In any case, this marker will be extremely fast. The plate isnt all that heavy and it has a very short path so it makes sense.

[FooTemps]

what about the emagnum? 30 cps? they starved the reg every time shooting that fast... they had to hook it up to scuba

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

I think some people just throw out numbers to impress whoever they're trying to in the pissing contest that they're in. If i recall, those timmy video's were brought here and exploited to only 18BPS. Not talking about cps, but BPS. I may be mistaken, but i think it was 18. Let me see a timmy or the alien or whatever do 30, then i'll believe it.

[srrdude]

Dont get all mad dude.. im just speculating. I made that number off my own guesses... I figure 40+ cps doesnt equal 40 bps.. so i thought more like 32-33.. and the new corkscrew can do round 30+ so i think that that is the max bps attainable by a person on semi on the alien. Maybe the timmies were only 18, but they are semi, and they have a sprin trigger. Remember u would need a uber sweet trigger to pull 30. Magnets and rollers as ive said before. Now ragu, i havent seen these yet either. I dont work for alien or anything, i just know what jack tells me. Now i do believe him because a) it has an equalizer which we already know goes lightin fast b) emagnum went 30 with a bolt that weighed bout 10X as much as the hatch cover in an alien (speculation) c) it would be plain stupid to lie bout if and then show vids. of like 15.. then people just lose all hope and trust and you dont sell.

[Timmee]

Originally posted by srrdude
50 was mathematical. 40 was tested. But can you pull 40? The guy before me asked if he could ever shoot 40 in a game. I said not, but if u had a magno trigger and put a crap load of rollers on it u could get near 30. Please read completely before u ask questions. If you just didnt understand thats cool. 30 is just my opinion for how fast maximum someone could shoot (a stretch of course)

I did read completely before I asked questions, and I do understand. Nowhere in either thread did I see how those numbers were derived (although I MIGHT have missed it, I do wear glasses). Were those cycles with air (pneumatics, exhaust valve venting, ...), or just the electronical cycling of the marker? Also, what kind of shootdown is someone likely to expect with the marker cycling at those speeds?

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

Not mad at all, just stating my opinion. Plus whenever i hear claims from new guns or new products, it's always nice even, rounded numbers(20,30,40). Nothing against you personally, but i think some of the claims you've given us are farfetched. However, like i said, i rarely believe anytyhing that is said about something new like this.

[srrdude]

Timmee: i didnt say where those numbers were derived from, i thought u didnt understand. Also, im not sure what they are from.. air.. board.. I will hafta talk to jack bout that.

Ragu: I believe that they are farfetched as well, ive seen 20 before and its insane.. i cant even imagine twice that. Currently, i am not a full believer. I think that it will be fast, but i cant say until i see it. As of now im gonna give jack the benefit of the doubt because i am hopeful and optimistic.