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  • Miscue
    Super Moderator

    • Oct 2000
    • 7105

    #1

    Recall on 4.00 Beta

    Reports of full-auto problems have sprung up. I was unaware of these problems until the beta test. I believe it is similar to, and related with the FA issues we know about with 3.2... except in reverse... and 4.00 seems to pick this up. The magnetic field from the solenoid is messing with the HES sensor. I believe that solenoid wiring doesn't matter, it just determines which way it goes FA... trigger held or released.

    I believe that every board is suspect to this problem... at random... some markers doing this more often than others.

    Please discontinue use of 4.00 and have your boards reflashed to 3.2.

    -Brian
  • gtrsi
    Automag?
    • Dec 2001
    • 5786

    #2
    Miscue,
    Is this a problem with the Selnoid being to large or HES to sensitive?
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    • Miscue
      Super Moderator

      • Oct 2000
      • 7105

      #3
      I don't know... this is a hardware thing and more of an electrical engineering issue, and that's not my background. I believe AGD will be looking into this to further understand the problem.

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      • gtrsi
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        • Dec 2001
        • 5786

        #4
        <------- not a software dood,

        but does the sensativity around the HES increase when the bps limit is increased?

        Is there away to measure "noise" around the sensor?

        Is it possible to shield the HES or there devices that are containmanted?

        Sorry if you cant answer all the q's but this makes me kinda concerned..
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        • Miscue
          Super Moderator

          • Oct 2000
          • 7105

          #5
          All I know right now is... a FA issue is present and it reverses itself when the wires are switched... and that's about it. I'm just a software guy, and will be leaving this up to AGD to figure out what the next step is.

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          • Skoad
            Registered User
            • Feb 2002
            • 3265

            #6
            gah, i guess this will push back a release date ;(

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            • 1stdeadeye
              Still around????
              • Jun 2002
              • 8501

              #7
              Was 4.0 actually Q1.0?

              What was the difference between 4.0 and 3.2?

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              • ZAust
                the righteous, the weeping
                • May 2003
                • 1806

                #8
                so, will those of us with 4.0 be able to get a free flashing to 3.2, or will we have to pay fpr it? what happens if the gun goes full auto with 3.2 as well?
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                • sps16
                  Now With Sprinkles
                  • May 2003
                  • 1558

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ZAust
                  so, will those of us with 4.0 be able to get a free flashing to 3.2, or will we have to pay for it?
                  well the flashing is free, you pay 20 bucks for shipping

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                  • ZAust
                    the righteous, the weeping
                    • May 2003
                    • 1806

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sps16

                    well the flashing is free, you pay 20 bucks for shipping
                    yeah i realized that after i posted.

                    i havent had any problems with 4.0, and ill stick with it until i do.
                    Last edited by ZAust; 01-25-2004, 08:37 PM.
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                    • gibby
                      Kahuna Studios
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 2507

                      #11
                      I haven't had any problems with mine either. But time will tell I guess.

                      However, with all these problems with the solenoid affecting the HES...couldn't we shroud the HES sensor with something that would block out the interference from the solenoid? Or is it that strong that no matter what we do, it will affect it either way?
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                      • OfficerGoat
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                        • May 2003
                        • 532

                        #12
                        I have a couple of ideas... I'm gonna play with it the next few days and see what we can find out
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                        • pbzmag
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 1468

                          #13
                          I haven't had any FA problems yet. Of course, I had slight FA issues before 4.0 and switched the solinoid wires around. Are the problems being reported by people who haven't switched their wires around before the upgrade?

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                          • MantisMag
                            Dim Sum
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 1895

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Miscue
                            a FA issue is present and it reverses itself when the wires are switched

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                            • hardr0ck68
                              I miss Tom
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 783

                              #15
                              i dont get that? Isnt a problem reversing itself a good thing? I have cancer, i take pill b, the cancer reverses this is good no? Can i get clarification on reverses itself?
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