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  • Miscue
    Super Moderator

    • Oct 2000
    • 7105

    #31
    Originally posted by big echo
    i got 4.0 at the n cali vs s cali event shot the hell out of it sence then and i have no problem with it. It will only go fullauto when i hit the 2 buttons in the back of the grip frame this is natural fight.
    ? How does that make it go FA?

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    • gibby
      Kahuna Studios
      • Jan 2002
      • 2507

      #32
      Hrm...I haven't taken an EE course since...well...forever. I can't really say I'm an expert but I was wondering...putting the board in "manual" mode and tripping the HES, since the solenoid isn't being activated, how does the board handle the excess voltage? I would assume the HES just sends a signal? Or does this actually complete the circuit that allows the voltage to travel through the board? Can the excess voltage trip another signal?

      Don't laugh if I sound completely clueless! LOL!

      On a side note, I tweaked my trigger the other day and I still don't get the FA problem. However, the only time I do get this problem is if the battery is low on power but it isn't enough to actually pull the solenoid. It just sends a bunch of low pulses. But from what I can remember, this was discussed at the CA meet but totally forgot the explanation of why that happens.
      Last edited by gibby; 01-31-2004, 05:27 PM.
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      • Miscue
        Super Moderator

        • Oct 2000
        • 7105

        #33
        Originally posted by gibby
        Hrm...I haven't taken an EE course since...well...forever. I can't really say I'm an expert but I was wondering...putting the board in "manual" mode and tripping the HES, since the solenoid isn't being activated, how does the board handle the excess voltage? I would assume the HES just sends a signal? Or does this actually complete the circuit that allows the voltage to travel through the board? Can the excess voltage trip another signal?

        Don't laugh if I sound completely clueless! LOL!

        On a side note, I tweaked my trigger the other day and I still don't get the FA problem. However, the only time I do get this problem is if the battery is low on power but it isn't enough to actually pull the solenoid. It just sends a bunch of low pulses. But from what I can remember, this was discussed at the CA meet but totally forgot the explanation of why that happens.
        The HES is connected to an I/O pin of the microcontroller. Another I/O pin goes out to trigger the solenoid. The controller handles the logic of figuring out what to do with the HES signals... and telling the solenoid to turn on and off... I'm a bit confused with what you're asking, hope this helps.

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        • USAF-Flyboy with a Mag

          #34
          I was just wondering. Who has 4.0 that is actually experiencing a full auto problem ------>WITH THE BATTERY FULLY CHARGED<-------. I'm not talking about slowly pulling the trigger searching for a sweet spot with the debounce at 1, but you pull the trigger and it goes full auto.

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          • gibby
            Kahuna Studios
            • Jan 2002
            • 2507

            #35
            Originally posted by Miscue


            The HES is connected to an I/O pin of the microcontroller. Another I/O pin goes out to trigger the solenoid. The controller handles the logic of figuring out what to do with the HES signals... and telling the solenoid to turn on and off... I'm a bit confused with what you're asking, hope this helps.
            I guess the confusion is with whether the HES completes the current or if it just sends out a signal to the board to process. I was thinking if it did complete the circuit that the power that travelled through wasn't being expended completely because the board was in manual mode(solenoid turned off)..so the excess power might have caused another signal to be raised?

            But from what you said, it just raises a signal...so nevermind...LOL!
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            • Da1spaz247
              S.S Bandit Captain
              • Jan 2003
              • 288

              #36
              So, any progress on the software?
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              • USAF-Flyboy with a Mag

                #37
                Bumping this again...Is anyone actually experiencing the Full Auto as I described above?

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                • f3rr3+
                  Six inches of furry fury
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 752

                  #38
                  and am i the only one waiting for officer goats reply?
                  Last week i thought i was indecisive, but now im not sure anymore...

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                  • RoadDawg
                    Degeneration X is back
                    • May 2001
                    • 4023

                    #39
                    Well mine has had a full auto issue. It is only when the safety is on and no air. When I shot air through it, it didn't have any FA issues. Just thought it was kinda weird.

                    (YES Flyboy I charged the battery fully)
                    Sorry, I'm old

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                    • USAF-Flyboy with a Mag

                      #40
                      Originally posted by RoadDawg
                      Well mine has had a full auto issue. It is only when the safety is on and no air. When I shot air through it, it didn't have any FA issues. Just thought it was kinda weird.

                      (YES Flyboy I charged the battery fully)

                      HAD or HAS?

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                      • RoadDawg
                        Degeneration X is back
                        • May 2001
                        • 4023

                        #41
                        Well I just messed around with it today and it was going FA w/o air and the safety on but with air it went away. Kinda wierd.
                        Sorry, I'm old

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                        • USAF-Flyboy with a Mag

                          #42
                          With your safety on it was doing this? Did you put your safety back together correctly? Well if it doesn't do it with air...good to go

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                          • RoadDawg
                            Degeneration X is back
                            • May 2001
                            • 4023

                            #43
                            The safety was installed by Tato so I'm hoping it is correct. It keeps the gun from firing. It was more or less the board was saying that it was firing and the noid was going nuts. Oh and DB setting was 10. Went 1-10 with same results and same with the ROF (adjusted it from 8-26). Seems to work now though. Kinda odd.
                            Sorry, I'm old

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                            • RoadDawg
                              Degeneration X is back
                              • May 2001
                              • 4023

                              #44
                              Well I had another wierd issue with FA. It wasn't going FA by sweetspotting til I reinstalled my Warp link cable. Now that I've unhooked it, it still goes FA. Just wierd I say. Might have to send mine in for a tune up.
                              Sorry, I'm old

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                              • USAF-Flyboy with a Mag

                                #45
                                hahaha Goodness Nick...what on Earth are you doing with your E-mag?!?!?!?!?!

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