I just have something to say about all the BPS talk

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Gadget, thank you for stating what I was silently thinking
The paintball generation gap, whoulda thunkit?

And they come complete with the herd mindset. Wear the cool clothes, shoot the cool guns, dont play in the woods its not cool etc ad nauseum. Damn I must be gettin old.

[bryceeden]

Originally posted by Brophog




I agree bryceeden, I don't see a voluntary rate of fire cap being placed. That's a shame really, because one will occur, whether we like it or not.

The non paintball people cannot be so adamant against unassisted firing modes (Turbo, FA, etc.) and yet keep turning the other cheek to what is happening today. Someone will step in sooner or later.

I can see a very strict ruling on trigger bounce, but I don't think a BPS cap will happen. It would hurt the industry too much, and the paint prices and field fees would rise. The industry needs high rates of fire to maintain the low costs that we have now.

[bryceeden]

Originally posted by mag-hatter



so all in all, the main reason you made this thread was to tell those who cant afford something as cool as your 2000 dollar gun and who get lit up without a chance in the universe to defend against 16 or so balls per second flying at them to shut up and deal with it? how fun will it be 5 years from now when they have some new trigger technique or something that enables the shooter to punch out 25 balls a second (yes, it will happen) and joe dirtball with his crazy gun walks into a rec ball game with his buds admeral asshat and deputy dingus and all three of them toasts the whole field with their guns. the people toasted are people with rentals, pos spyders (maybe in five years spyder will go bankrupt....lets pray) and all, but hey its fine because it makes the game more interesting. heh.

This is another one of the pointless hypothetical situations from someone that doesn't under stand the rush of compeating against fast rates of fire. I have been playing tourney ball for six years now, and I have a lot more fun against teams that shoot at high rates of fire, and I still shoot my mech mag. The funnest thing I have done in paintball to date is take on a guy with six E-spyders sodered together on one trigger going 13bps in a scenario, I was shot 42 times but it was a ton of fun. I don't have the high rates of fire, but I love to compeat against them.

[SpongeBobSquarePants]

Bryc-Thank you.

Mag hatter

[quote]haha yeah yeah those kids who are like 14 and under work every damn minute of their life to get that dragon timmy....bs their parents gave them all that money its so sickening. i went paintballing a month ago and there were three kids all with e-orricals, a dragon timmy and a pbx viking and they had to have been 12 or so, all had angel air, halo b, oh, and they had the latest in dye jerseys and guess what, the whole time they just poured paint onto the field not caring about a ball limit because daddy was at the staging area wearing his powder green leasure suit flippin out hundred dollar bills to see little bobby happy. its called labor laws. if they worked every minute from the time they were born it wouldnt account to a dragon....[quote]

You make absoulutly no point with that statement, all you did was put your self into the catagory of people who whine about not being able to afford it. Why does it bother you that they have thousand dollar markers? Because they are better then you? No. Its simply the jealousy factor. I can gaurntee if you were that 12 year old kid you would be on the other end of this argument. All I'm saying is stop with the damn stero-typeing that everyone who is under the age of 18 that owns high-end paintball equipment is a rich little brat. Guess what I am by no means rich. Not even a little bit, and I still find away to buy my equipment and compete. SO STOP COMPLAINING!


Also, to all the people who say there is a generation gap, yes there is but you know that we are the future of paintball. Yes you can all say I pay just as much as you do, but I will be someone still playing 20 years from now, we are the group that industry makes changes for, or at least that my opinion.

[Gadget]

The future of paintball? Maybe.

A great advertisement for birth control? Definitely.

[fallout11]

Originally posted by Gadget
The future of paintball? Maybe.

God, I hope not.
Sad.

[SpongeBobSquarePants]

Originally posted by Gadget

A great advertisement for birth control? Definitely.

You so don't get a opinion in this, now go have you tea

[Beemer]

Ha ha you guys are funny. Ill bite

Kids buy em books , send em to school and they still dont learn

[03vert]

Originally posted by elpimpo
it takes talent to hit 20 bps. i dont care if you say its the gun or whatever it still takes talent.

not on my gun it doesn't.
Edit-
also some of us do work for our guns, granted my dad and i split my first gun (cocker) and then i traded up for my bushy and paid all of that, and now im buying a emag (maybe) and might ule it out all with my own money. i also have a job to do this weekend that i should rake in some more cash. i love the sport but i mean with the electro it does cost a heck of a lot to fund the slaughter that it can dish out. and to think i was gonna get out of the sport. but some of us need to take it easy on each other, its just a discussion, a very serious one but no need to make enimies.

[Barfly]

yeah I would have to say that any 12 year old gunning a dragon timmy or viking is spoiled as hell. haha when I was in middle school I made enough money to buy several vikes during the summer, but that was fishing money. I still couldn't have bought one, because my parents would have told me that they are too expensive and yada yada yada. My parents told me I was spoiled back then, hmmm.

[bunkermaster10]

I must agree w/ everything u said sponge.

[FallNAngel]

Originally posted by Brophog


You have cycles per second, which is the amount of time the marker cycles. This doesn't have to be the number of times the marker fires. Usually this is quoted without paint to show what the marker is capable of.

Then you have trigger pulls per second. On an electro, and definitely an electro with an ACE, your not necessarily shooting 1 ball everytime the trigger is pulled. The ACE may kick in and delay the cycle, or software could be using the trigger pulls and adding or subtracting from that count.

Then you have what I called "true balls per second". This is nothing more than the balls that actually do come out of your barrel. This number can be quite different from the number of times the trigger was pulled and/or marker cycled.

...soooo... basically the bps you're shooting without bounce. The ace won't increase or decrease this count, it only affects your chopping...

[Brophog]

The ace won't increase or decrease this count, it only affects your chopping...

No, the ACE will affect this count.

If you pull the trigger 10 times and the ACE detects a ball in a choppable situation 2 of those times, it will halt those two cycles allowing the ball to drop. You now only get 8 balls, when you pulled the trigger 10 times.

Of course, like I said, the software may initiate a buffer system that would "add" those two lost shots in on later pulls. To the user, it may seem like nothing out of the ordinary occurred due to the software.

[bryceeden]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SpongeBobSquarePants
Bryc-Thank you.

Mag hatter

[quote]haha yeah yeah those kids who are like 14 and under work every damn minute of their life to get that dragon timmy....bs their parents gave them all that money its so sickening. i went paintballing a month ago and there were three kids all with e-orricals, a dragon timmy and a pbx viking and they had to have been 12 or so, all had angel air, halo b, oh, and they had the latest in dye jerseys and guess what, the whole time they just poured paint onto the field not caring about a ball limit because daddy was at the staging area wearing his powder green leasure suit flippin out hundred dollar bills to see little bobby happy. its called labor laws. if they worked every minute from the time they were born it wouldnt account to a dragon....

You make absoulutly no point with that statement, all you did was put your self into the catagory of people who whine about not being able to afford it. Why does it bother you that they have thousand dollar markers? Because they are better then you? No. Its simply the jealousy factor. I can gaurntee if you were that 12 year old kid you would be on the other end of this argument. All I'm saying is stop with the damn stero-typeing that everyone who is under the age of 18 that owns high-end paintball equipment is a rich little brat. Guess what I am by no means rich. Not even a little bit, and I still find away to buy my equipment and compete. SO STOP COMPLAINING!


Also, to all the people who say there is a generation gap, yes there is but you know that we are the future of paintball. Yes you can all say I pay just as much as you do, but I will be someone still playing 20 years from now, we are the group that industry makes changes for, or at least that my opinion.

Exactly, but I have two people on my team that have been playing for 17+years, and they like the higher rates of fire too. In general the consumer base wants faster, so they will keep getting faster(Like I said 80bps is awsome even on the reveving end).