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  • Crime Dog
    Ambassador to Newbies
    • Oct 2003
    • 219

    #16
    My first tourney is in April.

    I most likely WON'T call myself out on bounces. As Sam said, I'll call for Paintcheck.

    Note: I DID say that I don't ALWAYS do that.

    Anyways...

    Yeah...there's this thing called "Paintcheck that we all know about as well."

    Playing through a hit until a ref pulls your band is one of those things that I'm not looking forward to from other teams in tournament ball. I've heard that cheating is fairly horrific in that scene. Hopefully Team Fireproof, and others like us will be able to help turn that around a bit and reintroduce fair play.

    If you don't know if you've had one break on ya...call for a paintcheck, and quit firing. That's the rule I've heard over and over. And I think that it's quite fair...

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    • Jeffy-CanCon
      veteran rec player
      • May 2003
      • 1309

      #17
      Originally posted by Tyger

      "Check to see if the ball broke"?
      Bingo.

      I always leave if the ball breaks, but I check first. If I know I'm in a bad spot and about to get hammered - then I just call myself out, whether the ball breaks or not. I've had my share of welts, and don't see the point of waiting around for extras.

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      • Lohman446
        Useful posts: 7
        • Jun 2003
        • 9315

        #18
        I normally spend about a half second looking for an obvious hit - I did this once when a ref was close and he told me "I will tell you when your out" - his next words were "didn't break, didn't break, didn't break, no, oh.. that one did, your out" maybe I should have moved LOL
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        • Digits
          Canuckle
          • Feb 2003
          • 1329

          #19
          If you called yourself out on a bouncer in a tournament.. Your whole team would be mad at you, and everyone would think your a noob.. You NEVER call yourself out if there's things at stake unless you KNOW you got hit.. If it means calling for a ref then you do that.. But you don't just call yourself out after feeling something.. It could make or break the game, trust me, every man counts in a tournament.

          And the cheating isn't that bad in the tourny seen.. Rarelly do rookie/novice/am teams cheat.. It's usually the Pro's you hear about.. And if they do cheat chances are someone will see and they will get called out on it... Just make sure you shoot people a good 3-5 times so that they can't wipe them all.

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          • Ov3rmind
            Speechless
            • Nov 2001
            • 2637

            #20
            If I can see the hit, I call myself out. If I feel a hit but can't see it, I call for a paint check on myself and continue to play on. If I take a hit as I'm sliding and it gets whiped off, I'll continue to play (but I don't intentionally whipe).
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            • painball
              Scumbag
              • Dec 2002
              • 921

              #21
              I usually call myself out if there's a break. I've even called myself out for hits on my knee the ref didn't see. I've wiped only once in my life. I don't know whether the hit broke or not though. I just kinda rubbed it with my arm and kept on shootin. That was because I had never really stayed in long for the whole day. I'd get picked off early almost every game.

              Once in a tourney I actually stopped running on the break when I was hit in the chest. I checked in the middle of the field and noticed there was no break and kept runnin. I'm surprised I made it.

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              • danoxide
                posts:300
                • Jan 2004
                • 406

                #22
                i had to vote for keep playing untill a ref spots it...not because i am a disshonest person, but just because when i get hit i don't waste time checking to see if it broke, i keep playing. Once a ref calls me out i WILL walk away no hard feelings...



                EDIT:i made my post before i read all of these responses...and now going threw and reading them makes me wonder how many people are being honest right here...not to flame but come on, if your in a tournie and your team needs you(witch should be everyone if your in an tournie) your going to do everything you can to get that other person...even if it means takeing a few extra shots while the ref checks you...
                Last edited by danoxide; 01-31-2004, 07:45 PM.
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                • Digits
                  Canuckle
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 1329

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Ov3rmind
                  If I can see the hit, I call myself out. If I feel a hit but can't see it, I call for a paint check on myself and continue to play on. If I take a hit as I'm sliding and it gets whiped off, I'll continue to play (but I don't intentionally whipe).
                  I was playing on a sawdust field last weekend and got hit when I was laying on the ground trying to crawl up, once I made it to point x there were like 4 people looking and shooting at me, and only 1 actually hit me, and it was on my wrist, so I scurried back to my bunker and the hit was covered in sawdust, so I was hoping the ref would call me in (he was watching me the whole time).. But nope , not enough sawdust lol.. I would never intentially wipe though, but if a ref says im in.. I aint leaving..

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                  • NJPaint
                    Pro Peace
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2478

                    #24
                    I was told today at PBX Battlezone:

                    "You are a good player, but too honest, you need to at least finish your run"



                    Another thing:

                    Me: Whats the difference between an amateur team like the NJ Jesters and a pro team?

                    (I'm sitting with a few refs and a few players watching the Jesters do their stuff on the field)

                    Ref sitting next to me: "Pro teams cheat better"


                    Made me feel sad
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                    • Crime Dog
                      Ambassador to Newbies
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 219

                      #25
                      A sad commentary on the "pros" of our sport...to be sure. I hope younger players learn somethin' from them...what NOT to do.

                      Whatever happened to honor?

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                      • tony3
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 3740

                        #26
                        I put wipe that mofo away, just because it sounded funny.....I always check to see if it broke, and if it did then I'll call myself out, if not I'll keep playing.

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                        • coolcatpete
                          I have my e-mag back
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 1532

                          #27
                          I will be honest when I play with neewbs I dont directly wipe, I will brush up on a bunker or a ref will do it for me, I only would do this in the woods. The rason for this is that I ref and when I get to plaY that day I want to get a full game in not just 2 sec. So I figure I should be rewared for reffing. Most of the time when I do this I try not to shoot very many people, and I just guide neewbs around.

                          IN tounies I always call for a paint check no matter what, this is only because I want to know what is happing in the game if I am not out.

                          Rec play with my friend I always call my self out same with rec speed ball.
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                          • 50 cal
                            The evil voices win today
                            • Nov 2000
                            • 960

                            #28
                            If I see the hit I will call myself.
                            If I'm reffing and I see someone flinch and not even look to check themselves I will penalize them for intentional playing on and try to slap them with the max penalty.

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                            • joey d
                              yes, I run akaowners.org
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 2030

                              #29
                              so, what alot of you are saying, is this:

                              you have a clear hit on you. you don't call yourself, you wait for a ref to do it.

                              say the ref doesn't call it the entire match, until the end of the match, where you're team is hanging the flag. at that point, you are called out, and lose points for your team (now, it didn't matter there, because whether you were called out when you were hit, or there, you lose points for your team.) but, by your reasoning.. do you then argue with the ref and say "hey, I was hit way back in the beginning.. he didn't call me on it then, why now? isn't it a little late?"

                              this is what we call ethics.

                              if you are hit, and you see it, clearly. (as the situation stipulates) walk off the field. If you are hit, and are unsure whether it broke, call a ref over and have them check you.

                              .. yet another reason i am looking forward to playing tourney ball this year. to learn and see how many people are in it for the sport (and keep in mind, your portrayal and ethics and how you act promote the sport.. whether it be negatively or positively.) or for the little trophy, prizes and bragging rights..

                              **edit (addition)**

                              this is also the reason why people are getting hit with lanes of paint. because honest players like myself, have to worry about dishonest players downfield that either wipe, dont call when they are hit, or something along those lines. so, you play me in a tourney situation, you better be prepared to have a lane shot at you, to ensure you are out. (also, on that same note, if I can clearly see you are hit (such as a break on you and splatter), I will call a ref to check you. if you have wiped by then, you just get twice as much the next time you pop out of your bunker.
                              Last edited by jdev; 01-31-2004, 09:42 PM.
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                              • yeahthatsme
                                aka yeahthatswang
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 2592

                                #30
                                i said wipe it cus i'm in a lying mood













                                i'm actually always honest and call myself out unless i dont notice the hit
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