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  • mtbkrextrm
    Registered User
    • Jan 2004
    • 4

    #1

    AGD Defunct???

    I was just at the vegas "PAN AM" games and the guys at the CP trailer said AGD is not going tbe in business any longer is that so?? anyone else heard this also said it was due in part to smart parts hmmmmmm??
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  • Steelrat
    I meant to...uh, nevermind
    • May 2003
    • 5375

    #2
    The reports of AGD's demise have been greatly exaggerated.


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    • WARPED1
      I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
      • Nov 2001
      • 7458

      #3
      They'll be out of business fairly soon, no official word. But with no longer producing the E/X Mags.
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      • toyotaboy12
        e-tough

        • May 2003
        • 3663

        #4
        AGD's majority of buisness is buitl around mechs. I am sure they will be out of buisness soon
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        • Digits
          Canuckle
          • Feb 2003
          • 1329

          #5
          Originally posted by toyotaboy12
          AGD's majority of buisness is buitl around mechs. I am sure they will be out of buisness soon
          haha no doubt

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          • WARPED1
            I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
            • Nov 2001
            • 7458

            #6
            Originally posted by toyotaboy12
            AGD's majority of buisness is buitl around mechs. I am sure they will be out of buisness soon
            Unfortunatly, modern day players want electros, n00bs or "pros". So, if AGD doesn't produce an electro, they'll fade away. Tippmann even offers electro versions of thier guns. The companies that don't, fade awaY.
            Like ACI.
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            • MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata
              Another One Bites The Dust
              • Feb 2003
              • 2246

              #7
              Originally posted by WARPED1
              Unfortunatly, modern day players want electros, n00bs or "pros". So, if AGD doesn't produce an electro, they'll fade away. Tippmann even offers electro versions of thier guns. The companies that don't, fade awaY.
              Like ACI.
              Well if coolhand gets his vert 90 e-frame there will be a very nice electronic mag on the market
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              • Steelrat
                I meant to...uh, nevermind
                • May 2003
                • 5375

                #8
                What Im worried about is that, during the period AGD is not making an electro, former AGD owners will be forced to look elsewhere for new guns. And there are electos out there that are every bit as good as the e and X mags. When the time comes that AGD finally releases an electro, will the former owners all go running back to buy and AGD gun?

                I think AGD is gaining momentum right now, and not selling an electro will probably erase any gains that have been made. Discontinuing that flatline isnt going to help, either.


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                • SuiciDal Sn Y p ER
                  Registered User
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 3814

                  #9
                  i'm sure agd will surprise us...i hope
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                  • JKR
                    Stainless Steel 'Mag Lover
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 392

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WARPED1
                    Unfortunatly, modern day players want electros, n00bs or "pros". So, if AGD doesn't produce an electro, they'll fade away. Tippmann even offers electro versions of thier guns. The companies that don't, fade awaY.
                    Like ACI.

                    Quiet now... don't let the Palmers or Mike Cassity at CCI or hear you talk like that, ya whipper snapper.

                    Mechanicals are certainly competitive in paintball, even at a tournament level. They may not be as easy to rip off a string as is an electro, but we can all agree that the better player will always prevail with a mechanical over a lesser player with an electro.

                    JKR

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                    • Beemer
                      I could tell you but then.

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 3250

                      #11
                      E guns might be banned

                      Well once the C.P.S.C. starts getting involved all electros might be in trouble

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                      • MrWallen
                        TunaMax#4
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 536

                        #12
                        Ever since I started becoming interested in Paintball (4 years ago) I've been hearing that AGD is going out of business.

                        In fact, I almost didn't get a mag when some guy told me I wouldn't be able to get any support for it because of this. About 5 mins online told me 2 things: AGD wasn't going out of business, and if they WERE, I wouldn't NEED support because these markers ROCK!

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                        • Butterfingers
                          PhD in Automagology
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 2263

                          #13
                          Originally posted by WARPED1
                          They'll be out of business fairly soon, no official word. But with no longer producing the E/X Mags.
                          Thats what they said 4 years ago... AGD is still going strong...

                          What some don't understand is AGD is a fairly low risk entity. Thier ability to stay in business weighs less on the ability to sell guns. They are diversified into other industries and outsource most of thier parts. Additionally they dont accrue debt from sponsoring every pro team.

                          Low overhead means you can afford to sell less.

                          Adding more risk to the situation by continuing to produce an electro that could be violating a patent is not smart business, especially when the business is nowhere near being in dire straights.

                          Unlike smart parts which will go chaper 11 if they don't keep thier sales up. They have contracts to fulfil and tons more overhead.

                          Moreover I dont think Tom likes what this industry has become. It certainly is a diffrent atmosphere than when he started AGD. The original spirit of the game is gone... Its all about big business, and pro teams now.

                          Everybody wants paintball to be big and expand... what nobody expected was the inevitable... commercialization. Just like Baseball, Football, and Golf. Where almost every athlete has nike gear...

                          AGD will remain albeit downsized if Tom wants it to remain... They have the staying power no matter what happens...

                          In the big sports world they will be with the likes of people who make high class high quality specialized sporting equipment.

                          For players who want the best of the best and don't settle for less.
                          Last edited by Butterfingers; 02-28-2004, 10:10 PM.
                          Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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                          • Butterfingers
                            PhD in Automagology
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 2263

                            #14
                            We also seem to forget AGD makes a very competitive Compressed air system...

                            Thats all Air America Does and nobody seems to speculate the ending of thier business.

                            If tom wants to play hardball he can sue SP for patent infringement on compressed air
                            Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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                            • Skoad
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 3265

                              #15
                              idiots.

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