AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
Yes that's true, but it's going to be a lot of work and money that most companies, players, and leagues aren't going to want to shell out, which is going to make it very hard. IMO, the best way to cap markers would be to make everyone shoot revvies, but you would have to get all leagues to do this at once or teams would just jump to the other league that doesn't require this. Also, it would put Odyssey out of business.
We need to get rid of refs that are on a power trip...
if you pull my trigger over a three second period (or my opponents) and get six shots, or nine, or even 15 I really don't care... If you find a spot that it goes machine gun, I do. Lets get real with the rules, lets aim the rules to enforce what we are trying to enforce... not a random occasion that is going to happen with any electronic or mechanical device. Ok, not any, but get the point.
And the manufacturers making rules (Dye, WAS) and then enforcing them is just stupidity.
I deleted my other post because it was worded sort of wrong. I was being sarcastic and what I was meaning to get across is that cheater boards are the steroids of paintball.
I think that some people get so caught up in playing tournaments, that they depend on it and they need an extra advantage. Just like you won't see a middle-school track runner juicing, it's not likely you're going to see a woods baller shooting 20 bps because nothing is on the line.
I guess I'm playing devil's advocate here and I'm about to be crucified but so be it.
The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is press coverage.
I think what you see in the collaboration of Manike and J&C is that this is neither a manufacturer problem nor a testing problem, but a matter of both.
We need better standards for manufacturers to go by and more definitive testing procedures for detecting bounce. Neither one in itself is likely to be the solution.
Lol.
I think it's funny as Ignition was just on the cover of PB2Xtremes, I think. This post sounds ignorant, I just thought it was witty. I dont want to stir any flames up. Hell, I've done searches, and asked shoppes around town,and I'm still not sure was bounce is. I know I'll be told to search again, but heck, could someone please explain to me, while we're on the subject?
Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
The time has come for the AutoJudge(tm).
Agreed a machine that has a way to fire markers, has 1000s of different types of pulls programmed into it, a built in chrono, fires the marker 20 times - 5 of the "standard" style pulls, and then a sequence of 15 "odd and standard" pulls. with a 0-2 (except with a sequence of 10-15 quick ones) second random delays, to check for ramp, etc. If the marker fires more than 22 balls (some error allowed) or fires hot in that time, its disallowed.
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
The gun does kick differently when firing paint than when dry firing. There should be a plug that goes on the end of the gun to simulate a ball being fired. There should also be a mechanical testing device for pulling triggers. If the gun passes the test performed by the mechanical device then it is legal. The mechanical device could be set to perform several different pull rates and effects to simulate several different types of trigger pulls.
Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.
I just have a question. There was this spoiled little 12 year old at the field I play at with an e orracle. Now this kid really didn't belong on the air ball field because he was getting lit up every other game and every time he did he kept crying to the refs that people were wiping. After the last game of the day, he was shooting his gun at the chrono area and I and a couple of my friends noticed that it sounded like it had bounce. We all checked it out and the trigger was so light and short that sometimes it would shoot 2 or three times if you tapped the trigger. There was no other modes on this gun either. Would that be considered illegal?
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