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  • nerobro
    Registered User
    • Oct 2001
    • 923

    #16
    I tend to buy the cheapest paint that a company is willing to put their name on. Truely bad paint.. The company won't spend the time to put color logos on the box. (think Blaze tourny/field paint... It's some of the worst poop I've shot) and... whitebox paint. I know some people have good luck with it. But It's a shot in the dark as to who made it, how old it is, and what made it whitebox!

    I'm willing to pay more to get good paint. I still have a fondness for RPS premium. Same goes for Chronic.. so long as it's had some time to solidify. :-) (first year I played skyball, the chronic was SO fresh, that some cases of it were still a little soft)

    As for players playing with the cheapest paint they can find... it's the same mentality that has people buying cheap tools. And the same mentality that has people buying cheap anything. "it's cheap now" However, it's not cheap later...... Like was said earlier, pump players depened on that one ball. If it's BYOP, spend the same money on paint. Just buy better paint!
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    • Augiedoggy18
      Accuracy By Volume
      • Feb 2004
      • 133

      #17
      I almost always shoot Blaze, I buy it for about $55 a case. I think its certainly worth it to avoid having ball-related problems. If I see a bunch of people wiping, I will pull out the Hellfire. I know its expensive, but the wiping goes away. I guess my point is, when you're going to spend a bunch of money to play paintball, play with the best paint you can afford. Sure, you could save a few bucks a case by buying cheap paint. Wow, that's great. So, after you buy several cases of cheap paint, you will have saved enough money to buy one more cheap case of paint. That's so great (can you feel the sarcasm dripping from my post yet?)! Most of the guys I play with use cheap crap and spend the better part of the day cleaing their guns and wondering what they did wrong. Suck it up and buy good paint.

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      • Wc Keep

        #18
        Originally posted by Branchvillian

        That wasn't bad stuff for 25 bucks, right? I would shoot it again, the only reason I was breaking was because it was large bore, and I only had a small bore barrel on my old shocker.
        it was real good for me cause i had a freak. i just threw my 695 in there and went to town,

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        • Meph
          AO's Tippmann Guy
          • Aug 2002
          • 737

          #19
          I guess I'm an oddball Tyger. Because when I go to BYOP places like Hell's Survivor I bring like 3 cases of Evil I bought for the 2-day event.

          Then again that's when I had my SMG-68 with full-auto conversion I did to it (take 60 trigger and put in 68) and a bucket-o-clips. Mind you Tippmann World Challenge is one of the only places where this would be considered "normal" or not "damaging the sports reputation."

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          • Branchvillian
            The one with the E-Mag
            • Aug 2003
            • 775

            #20
            Originally posted by Wc Keep


            it was real good for me cause i had a freak. i just threw my 695 in there and went to town,
            Yeh, it shot just fine in my E-Mag when I could use my longbow, but I couldn't use the longbow in my Shocker. I would def. buy that again. When we had our employee meeting Shane told us that it rreally wasn't bad paint...it just had non performance decreasing flaws.

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            • Crighton
              Registered User
              • Apr 2003
              • 535

              #21
              I try all sorts of paint. So naturally some of it is total junk.

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              • punkncat
                One foot less
                • Feb 2003
                • 5841

                #22
                Just about every paint has good and bad batches.One time brand "" is awesome and the next its terrible.
                Look for whats on sale.Look at the regularly stocked mid grade paints.Open the box and look at the bags.If its good and round with no/little seams or breaks in the box , buy it.
                The most common problems being balls that are too bouncy or that have watery fill.This tends to be consistant with the brand name.Especially concerning the fill.

                Its crazy to go and spend big money on some paint just because its supposed to be the best,or its whatever everyone else is using.Every shot costs , more effeciency means more game.

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                • Big_Chops
                  Big_Chops get fat diet
                  • May 2003
                  • 757

                  #23
                  just found out our team gets the new evil paint 36$ a case and big ball for 35$. no clue if that is a good discount but w/e it shoots fine for me but people don't care as long and they are playing paintball they will buy w/e is out there.

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                  • street1356
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 121

                    #24
                    where do yall find such cheap paint??

                    i pay bout $65-$70 for a case of evil or chronic

                    and i just found something that shoots good.....DUSK. it shoots just as good as evil out of a progressive barrel. and i found some that is the same color pink fill as pink evil


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                    • acropilot19
                      EAT DANGER, CRAP VICTORY!!
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 541

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Lohman446
                      I'm with you on that, I generally shoot Kickn Triple X nasty for a reason, it works well.

                      The worst part of it is, you'll seee people with marker set ups well beyond $500 or $1,000 shooting the cheapest paint they can. I have invested a lot of money and time into this hobby, I can't imagine letting poor paint make it less enjoyable. Certainly we're not discussing the $10 a case difference as being why people do this...
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                      • Tanner Johnson
                        I'll Be your Huckleberry
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 480

                        #26
                        Tyger you should come up to central wisconsin
                        I just got back from my local store and it's the 1st big paint shipment of the year. So i walk in and what do I see?
                        600 cases of paint. 8 different inds of it too.
                        I swear my jaw dropped about 2 feet. I ended up picking up 2 cases of RPS/PMI premiums for $70! Now that is a good price.
                        Usually this place carries absolute shat!
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                        • GoatBoy
                          Junior Mint
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 1399

                          #27
                          OK, I'll be the patsy for ya, Tyger.


                          I buy the cheapest paint possible wherever I go.

                          Just because it's expensive doesn't mean it's better.

                          Now, we've all had our own personal experiences with paint, so I'll go into mine.

                          For starters, I don't believe in paying more for paint that winds up sailing over people's heads or slamming against a bunker. Realistically, that's where most of your paint goes. So why pay an extra premium for the privilege of missing your shot? And this is coming from someone who shoots less than a case a day. You guys with the electros might want to stop and consider where exactly most of your paint goes. Maybe it would be more apparent if your gun went "cha-ching" every time you fired.

                          At the field where I regularly play, they have Big Ball, Evil, and the cheap stuff, which used to be some sort of Zap something, like Zap spank.

                          My experience with evil... Someone loaned me some evil so I could continue playing at the end of one of the days, and I wound up shooting him with his own paint (yeah, I know, I'm terrible), but I saw that paint literally bounce off of him from 15 feet away. He's not fat, and he wasn't wearing a jersey, and a few of them just flat out bounced off of him right before my eyes. I could have sworn I saw one bounce off a hyperball bunker.

                          My experience with Big Ball... They were supposedly having problems with the Zap stuff once ("There's something wrong with the shells; it's breaking in some people's hoppers"), so the guy working the counter gave me Big Ball at the Zap prices. They sell the Big Ball for more, and the people at the counter tried to get you to buy it. I tried playing with the stuff, and after watching my paint take very interesting random trajectories, I told the guy that I'd take my chances with the spank and traded the unopened bag for Zap. And all was better.

                          And the Zap "Spank". Well, the field doesn't carry this paint anymore, which is lamentable, because it was my favorite paint. At some point while I picked the game back up last year, I decided to start being more patient and calm on the field and just pick my shots. Even though it was their "cheap paint", it was accurate enough for me to go out onto the field with a 50-round loader and some stock tubes and still get elims and win games. The paint only had two slight problems: 1. if you left it in the sunlight, it BALLOONED, and 2. there was some excess oil that would collect in the bag, although it never caused accuracy problems for me.


                          Ah, and Texball. I got back from Texball, and a guy I know says that the "crappy" paint that was used at Texball is his team's practice paint. I don't know about you, but whatever paint they were using at Texball seemed GREAT to me; I still have half a case and I'm hoping to shoot it soon at the next BYOP field I vist.


                          So, don't judge paint by its pricetag or advertising. Try to be unbiased when trying paint (I've heard people at the field raving about how great and accurate the Big Ball was -- with their tippman flatlines) and just judge it for what it is.

                          Oh, and I don't "match paint". I don't even ask. I have one barrel which I use 99% of the time -- a J&J Ceramic. Does this make me Old School?
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                          • Lethargic
                            is tired...
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 416

                            #28
                            I get the brown box house paint for $27.00 a case from my local store. Sure, it isn't wonderful in any sense of the word, but with level 10 I've yet to chop, and playing front, I don't do much besides bunker people. All in all, this stuff (and I don't know who makes it) shoots better for me than anything else under about $50.00 a case.

                            And consider this: Spending only $27.00 per practice instead of $40.00+, I've managed to save enough for Huntington, and our uniforms.

                            Sometimes cheap crap paint isn't all bad
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                            • tony3
                              LOOKING FOR AN ASIAN GF!!!
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 3740

                              #29
                              I buy the cheap stuff because it shoots relatively good, and is cheap. If I went to a byop tourney I'd send money and get paint that I knew wasn't going to break.

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                              • 845
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 1809

                                #30
                                Whats worst is on BYOP nights when we have to clean up all the morons bring ultra evil and hellfire. Makes bunker cleaning 10x harder.

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