Deadlywind hAir trigger demo video

**ej_y4** · 03-22-2004, 09:01 PM

tom im willing to wait. that is going to be an awsome upgrade. forget electros

**temps** · 03-22-2004, 09:06 PM

What are the chances of this mod working with a classic valve mag?

**sitting_duck** · 03-22-2004, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by AGD
Cost wise you guys have to understand that your putting an LPR, three way and piston actuator (plus plumbing) on the base marker. Heck thats half a cocker!

Its not going to be like an I-frame upgrade it has to be more.

AGD

i personally wouldn't have a problem with that. hell, i spent $400 just to have a worrblade on my 'cocker. one thing i have quickly learned is that the majority of electros refuse to be as reliable as a mech. that's why i recently bought an 04 vert 'cocker. i was originally planning on getting the RT Custom but the deal for the cocker was too good to pass up. now, i have never had a problem with my e-cocker (other than with black shelled paint) and i don't anticipate that i will. regardless, i am still planning on getting a 'mag in the very near future. the possibility of a mech mag that can fire as fast as my e-cocker just pushes me to get one that much sooner.

**Chris** · 03-22-2004, 09:10 PM

That hair trigger is amazing. I would buy one right now, problems or not. Heck, back in the day we bought 'cockers knowing full well that they had their share of problems. Didn't stop me from fixing it and continuing my day. I would imagine that the hair trigger is something simillar.

To address some of Toms comments, nothing is perfect, no matter how much you test something, it will end up breaking down for somebody at some point. No matter if Nicad, or AGD or somebody else releases this, or a simillar trigger, it will have problems at some point.

I dont think that anybody wants to overpay for something, but there are those people who must have everything first. They will line up just to say, "I have a mech. gun that has a shorter/lighter trigger than your electro" I dont blame them, thats a pretty cool party trick.

If it were to be released as a Beta, I would expect to get a discount on the final version. This is assuming that the Beta product could be converted into the final version, be that by some tuning, or swaping a few parts. If moving up from the Beta meant that none of the original parts could be re-used, then the full price would be reasonable to expect.

If this trigger is released before anybody else makes one, than people will be lining up to purchase it. If you wait too long, somebody else will have one out for less money, that may not work as well...but most people would not notice/care. It would be cheap and have the same end result...although at the cost of quality and reliability.

It is human nature to brag about what you have, no matter what it is. You will always have someone stating, as if it were gospel, how much better their Electrospleentzapper LCD is than any mechanical gun. It's a fact of life, deal with it. Somebody will always be better than you, and many people will say that they are.

In life there are those who cheat to get by, and those who know how to keep it honest. Call me crazy, but I am not about to pick up a gun with a cheater board, just to get those extra 2bps. I know that I can go and hold my own with a pump, and it doesn't matter what the other team is using. I do not need to hide behind a wall of paint. This mentality may not be that of the vast majority of players, but for those "Old School" players, most think along these lines. Who knows, maybe it will be cool to be honest once again...but thats doubtful.

All I can say, is that whomever comes out with a product first, will have a huge advantage over the competition. Hopefully, this frame could be adapted to work on other markers. That would get the word out, and possibly help with the swaying of opinions on mech. guns.

GT · 03-22-2004, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by AGD
Cost wise you guys have to understand that your putting an LPR, three way and piston actuator (plus plumbing) on the base marker. Heck thats half a cocker!

Its not going to be like an I-frame upgrade it has to be more.

AGD

My guess, and this is pure guess I have no ties with AGD or Deadly Wind, but I am willing to bet this will be ATLEAST a 200-250 dollar upgrade. So keep that in mind AO it aint gonna be cheap.

AGD,
I am all mech all the time so if you build it I wiil buy it, HOWEVER, all hoses need to be internal. It looks as if Nicad has some internal routing for the reg through the dalara...

**dj89** · 03-22-2004, 09:35 PM

i need to looking in bp talk more offin wow i need one put me up for one to

you are going to need to get a bout 100 people to finish all of these orders

**rkjunior303** · 03-22-2004, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by AGD
Cost wise you guys have to understand that your putting an LPR, three way and piston actuator (plus plumbing) on the base marker. Heck thats half a cocker!

Its not going to be like an I-frame upgrade it has to be more.

AGD

After reading this and noticing it was shooting at 750psi, does that mean since there is an LPR it will shoot the same regardless if we have a preset or an adjustable tank?

**Digits** · 03-22-2004, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by rkjunior303

After reading this and noticing it was shooting at 750psi, does that mean since there is an LPR it will shoot the same regardless if we have a preset or an adjustable tank?

I believe the LPR is in the trigger frame which regulates and then gives some air to the three way which when pressed actives the piston actuator to pull the sear (pure guess lol)

EDIT : wait I think the LPR gives air to the 3 way and when the 3 way is pressed it opens up and releases the regulated air to the piston actuator to pull the sear.. lol

**rkjunior303** · 03-22-2004, 09:50 PM

I know nothing about cocker pneumatics so it's all greek to me :) I'm just wondering if this is running at 750psi, what if we have a preset that is running at say 850 or something?

GT · 03-22-2004, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by Digits

I believe the LPR is in the trigger frame which regulates and then gives some air to the three way which when pressed actives the piston actuator to pull the sear (pure guess lol)

Follow the hoses guys. I dont want to guess anymore and steal anyones thunder if and when it comes to production.

**Digits** · 03-22-2004, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by rkjunior303
I know nothing about cocker pneumatics so it's all greek to me :) I'm just wondering if this is running at 750psi, what if we have a preset that is running at say 850 or something?

It should.. Because the LPR regulates the air pressure for the pneumatics..

**ScatterPlot** · 03-22-2004, 10:00 PM

Wow... that is truly awesome. I DEFINATELY want 1. Make that 2. Or a million.

**314159** · 03-22-2004, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by AGD
Cost wise you guys have to understand that your putting an LPR, three way and piston actuator (plus plumbing) on the base marker. Heck thats half a cocker!

Its not going to be like an I-frame upgrade it has to be more.

AGD

Sell an expensive beta version while people still have their tax returns.

**baka** · 03-22-2004, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by baka
also think about the children...i mean poor people.

**Rope a Dope** · 03-22-2004, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by AGD
Cost wise you guys have to understand that your putting an LPR, three way and piston actuator (plus plumbing) on the base marker. Heck thats half a cocker!

Its not going to be like an I-frame upgrade it has to be more.

AGD

You're talking to people that pay $100+ for honed pipes.

Deadlywind hAir trigger demo video

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