anyone heard of a mayhem

[hwayhzrd]

Not a bad deal.

You can keep Indian Creek Designs, though, as they are in bed with Smart Parts.

Any idea whose car that got stolen from for that price?

[The Action Figure]

thanks i will stick to icd. but my gun will shoot twice as fast, runs on a lower pressure, and my gun wont cut my finger off

[GT]

You can keep Indian Creek Designs, though, as they are in bed with Smart Parts.

You have no clue what you are talking about. BTW we dont bash each others rigs on AO.

[The Action Figure]

not bashing just criticism

[hwayhzrd]

You have no clue what you are talking about. BTW we dont bash each others rigs on AO.

YOU are accusing ME of not having a clue?

Wake up and smell the manure you are spreading.

I am NOT busting on ANYONE'S rig.

I used to have thoughts of getting a Bushy.

However, Smart Parts, you know, the reason that the E-Mag, X-Mag, Excalibur and Viking aren't being made anymore, bullied ICD into a "licensing agreement", giving them a cut of every marker they sell, or be sued like Akalmp, and possibly put out of business.

Next time you accuse someone of not having a clue, get your OWN ducks in a row, OK, dude?

Have you no clue what is happening in your own sport?

Sheesh ...

No wonder people like the Gardners are getting away with murder.

[MaChu]

If your looking for a gun to tinker with, and won't make you lose digits, I would suggest a Rainmaker. What people have done to those guns are insane! So many different ways you could set it up by changing the regulator, getting a new board, changing out the switch, pnuematics, solenoid, etc. A big money pit, but can be had for cheap. I believe there is a guy named Scott on here who has a yellow and black acid wash that looks like a beast. Not to mention that these guns, once maxed out, make excellent primaries, but the feedneck kinda sits back and makes the gun a little awkward.

Another gun that would be fun to tinker with would probably be old cockers. Those on ebay can be bought for $100-$150.

Just more suggestions for tinkering
Matt

[The Action Figure]

so your accusing ICD for being in cahoots with SP. Ok ICD probably hates SP as much as any company, but ICD just couldnt stop production like that. AGD can still manufacture and sell mech guns and AKA is desining new guns for the 2005 season. ICD pretty much has to make Electros to stay in buisness so they pretty much had no other option.

[hwayhzrd]

so your accusing ICD for being in cahoots with SP. Ok ICD probably hates SP as much as any company, but ICD just couldnt stop production like that. AGD can still manufacture and sell mech guns and AKA is desining new guns for the 2005 season. ICD pretty much has to make Electros to stay in buisness so they pretty much had no other option.

What part of FORCED INTO A LICENSE AGREEMENT was unclear?

I am certain that they didn't want to do it.

HOWEVER, that being said, SP STILL gets a percentage of every Bushy that ICD sells.

If I have to keep explaining everything, this is going to take a really long time.

[The Action Figure]

your right, but it sounds like you think that they wanted to do it saying that they are in "agreement" wtf was agreed upon

[robdamanii]

What part of FORCED INTO A LICENSE AGREEMENT was unclear?

I am certain that they didn't want to do it.

HOWEVER, that being said, SP STILL gets a percentage of every Bushy that ICD sells.

First off, buying it USED means that SP gets no cut of a licensing agreement from the person who purchases it. And a 2k2 is prior to SP, so .

Second, SP never served AGD with anything. X-Mag bodies were too costly in time to produce at AGD europe, and the e-mag tech was outdated. Xs were retired due to the difficulty of havnig the bodies milled, and Es were retired because they are indeed 5 years (give or take) old. The SP suit was only a mitigating factor in the retirement of the X, not the full blown reason.

If you want to buy into the SP crap, then fine. Don't expect us all to do it as well. I hate SP because their products (the majority anyway) are crap, not because of business practices. Do you hate Microsoft for what they do? Chances are...no. Same thing.

However I was amused to see WDPs counter-suit...

[Fred]

shut up about SP already... its stupid.

the mayhem is generally considered to be a POS... if you know how to make it NOT a POS, please inform us...

the one I tried had a Morlock in it as well... it didn't help in the least bit.

---Fred