Drop Forward: Whats the Problem?

[WARPED1]

And they dont use them because y???

Because it's not cool. I'll never lose my use of drops, one of the best PB inventions ever.

[nastymag]

i think it depends on the gun.

on my A4 i could never run ANY sort of drop, the 90 degree frame already pushed the tank farther forward and down, so you add a drop to that and i feel likes it waY to tall and its hard to sight down it.

i use a KAPP Rail on it.


on my other to angels, i use Small Shocktech drops, they have in for sizes , micros ( practicly a rail) small ( what i use) med, and large.

i guess its up to the person using it. but i seriously cant see why the whole chicken wing thing is comfortable

[dave_p]

drops came about when compressed air became popular and the tanks were big(114's). nitroduck had a 68 that was skinny but longer than a 114. if you tried to use a bottom line or duckbill with a 114, its not playable. i use a nitroduck 110. i need a drop. when i shoot my wrist is not bent at all.

toasterstreudel has a point if you are using say a 45/45 or 68 stubby with a drop. it may end up making the gun a little too short, but i wholeheartedly agree on the side of personal preference. my preference is the huge tank. i like it. im a strong grown man and the tank doesnt slow me down, balances nice and provides a stable platform to shoot from. most newer players would probably think im nuts. oh well.

[FallNAngel]

I think it's not so much the drop that people have a problem with as the results of using a drop. Generally speaking, you can should the marker easier and site down the barrel easier when you have you have the marker in front of you. Having a huge drop which places the marker next to your head makes you have to kink your wrist to pull the trigger, etc.

In the end though, it all comes down to personal preference and depends on the situation. In some cases, it'd be good to use a drop. With others, you may be better off without it.

[Empyreal Rogue]

As stated, a drop forces your wrist into a very unwalkable position as you have to curve your wrist around the tank and then tweak it forward to put your fingers in a horizontal position, vs. having a straight wrist (no strain of ligaments) against the tank regulator which gives you a smaller profile coming out to take a shot.

With my Drop my wrist is in a perfect walking position. It's slightly bent around the regulator but I can walk just as easily as if I had my hand straight out. I also tuck my tank into my armpit and even along my pec. depending on how I'm in the bunker. Maybe we should get together and I'll show you how a real D/F user gets tight.

Personally, Uni-Mounts put the tank too far out (From the marker) for me. My D/F is just so comfortable for me. And obviously if people are resting the tank on their shoulder they deserve to be shot out. It's just common sense that if you put the marker above your head you put yourself in a worse situation than you were in before.

[frischtr]

let's beat this dead horse into a coma...

[No sKiLLz]

With my Drop my wrist is in a perfect walking position. It's slightly bent around the regulator but I can walk just as easily as if I had my hand straight out. I also tuck my tank into my armpit and even along my pec. depending on how I'm in the bunker. Maybe we should get together and I'll show you how a real D/F user gets tight.

Personally, Uni-Mounts put the tank too far out (From the marker) for me. My D/F is just so comfortable for me. And obviously if people are resting the tank on their shoulder they deserve to be shot out. It's just common sense that if you put the marker above your head you put yourself in a worse situation than you were in before.

If you have a drop, the first part can't be true. You say your wrist is wrapped around the reg, but if the tank is forward, the reg isn't under the grip frame, the tank is, unless you hold your gun backwards. And think about what you just said. If the tank is in your armpit or chest, what comes out of the bunker first, your gun or your shoulder, arm, and elbow?

[teufelhunden]

toasterstreudel

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[dave_p]

hahahahaahahahahahahaahaha

glad you didnt take offense, and none intended
it was easier to spell than your real handle

[Blazestorm]

I just prefer the unimount over anything else because its comfy... I'm a big guy and having the gun firmly pressed against my shoulder and out decently far is important.

[Enemy]

i couldnt understand any points toasterstrudel was making in his other thread or what everyone else was saying but now i see.. i guess alot of people use the drops to put the gun on the side or your head which would make it more of a guess and click and a blimp for fire..the reason i couldnt understand was that my 88/4500 with my big old drop put the back of the valve an inch off of my face and when shooting i got into the quick habit of rolling the shoulder my gun is on alittle down to bring my mag right down my eyesite being single trigger i wasnt expecting to high rates of fire so that part never hit now with my new mag coming in im going to attempt both setups so thanks for whoever started this thread.. also i love this agrument how the drop makes the gun tall but have you seen some of the recent guns they look like a reciver for radar they are so tall...

[Empyreal Rogue]

If you have a drop, the first part can't be true. You say your wrist is wrapped around the reg, but if the tank is forward, the reg isn't under the grip frame, the tank is, unless you hold your gun backwards. And think about what you just said. If the tank is in your armpit or chest, what comes out of the bunker first, your gun or your shoulder, arm, and elbow?

You're right, my arm doesn't go around the regulator. It goes around my tank. And when I come out of bunkers the first thing out... Well it all depends where I'm coming from. If I'm snap shooting up the first thing out is my barrel. If I snap shoot to my right the first thing out is my barrel. Very seldom do I run out from a squatting position trying to shoot, it's just awkward and uncomfortable for me. If I'm at a standing position and I run out shooting the first thing out is my gun followed by my forearm then body.

I've quickly and easily adapted to coming out of bunkers because I had to with the Q-Loader. I was already use to using a D/F so it was even easier for me. I guess some of us just have it and others just don't. *shrugs*

[No sKiLLz]

You're right, my arm doesn't go around the regulator. It goes around my tank. And when I come out of bunkers the first thing out... Well it all depends where I'm coming from. If I'm snap shooting up the first thing out is my barrel. If I snap shoot to my right the first thing out is my barrel. Very seldom do I run out from a squatting position trying to shoot, it's just awkward and uncomfortable for me. If I'm at a standing position and I run out shooting the first thing out is my gun followed by my forearm then body.

I've quickly and easily adapted to coming out of bunkers because I had to with the Q-Loader. I was already use to using a D/F so it was even easier for me. I guess some of us just have it and others just don't. *shrugs*

Do yourself a favor; have someone video tape you head-on while you pop from a bunker and see what happens.

[Empyreal Rogue]

If you really want me to prove you wrong, sure.

Nah, I won't be that cocky. I'll be honest though, I really don't think you'll be right. Again with honesty, I'm sitting here doing some practice snap-shooting from behind a tall chair and I don't see how my shoulders could be seen before my marker. I'd tape it with my digital camera but no one else is here. I might be paintballing with my friends in a few weeks and I'll ask the ref to take some pictures of me snap shooting and show you.

Regardless of whose right, some of us are just good at getting tight with dropforwards and others of you aren't. I bet you're pretty good with Uni-Mounts and I'm pretty bad with them, I know I couldn't get tight with my friend's Max-Flo if my life depended on it.

[Torbo]

i think uni-mounts are the way to go. A 68 tank is the most common size, and with that length it puts the gun in just the right position. It balances it very nicely too, especially something like a trix or timmy with a halo ont he front. Having a long gun is nice playing airball, since it allows one to push in so well, and to wrap. It seems that no one has mentioned this yet.....a drop makes your gun taller. Your hopper is higher. Easier to hit, harder to keep in. And that alone makes a huge difference.