whitewolf airsmithing...

[RusskiX]

Maybe he should give customres a time frame,

While I understand Aliens frustration, it states right on WW main page, "I say NO TIMEFRAMES for a reason". The bottom line is he provides a disclaimer up front. If you don't like the terms, you shouldn't agree to the deal. Yeah, it may suck, but don't say you weren't warned.

I hope you get your stuff soon, but don't hold your breath.

[ChucktheMAGician]

Update!

2 Months after my order and several emails sent, all read but most not responded to, I received a refund thru Paypal. After Paypal deducted fees I ended up losing $1.82 and had 2 months of piss poor customer service and frustration.

[hAppy]

been waiting for 2 years for some work at punishers customs, he is being an A HOLE. Been waiting a year for work to be done with bradAGD. THESE GUYS TAKE FOREVER. I just wish they wouldn't lie so much about the status of the order.

That is harsh. You guys can't tell BC that he needs to chill. 2 years is a VERY long time, half a year is when you get bored of your gun. I bet you this guy doesn't even miss his gun anymore. I know waiting on your gun is a pain, my friend waited 6 months for his mag to be completed b/c he was waiting on Logic.

[Aliens-8-MyDad]

just an update on my condition... oh wait nothing has changed, except for the date.. still no response from WWA and still no e-mag.

115 days and couting...
(16.5 weeks)
4 months...

[frischtr]

Dude, I hear you... Almost 4 months for me... (sigh) Maybe someday...

[Muzikman]

Ok...I am going to say this really loud...

Unless you can not go without your marker for atleast a year, and some times as long as five years, DO NOT SEND IT TO A CUSTOM AIR SMITH.

This is the way they work...ALL OF THEM. I am really getting sick of all the people complaining that I send such and such out to so and so and I have not got it back yet. I mean if you look, EVERY custom shop gets the same complaint.

[FooTemps]

Ok...I am going to say this really loud...

Unless you can not go without your marker for atleast a year, and some times as long as five years, DO NOT SEND IT TO A CUSTOM AIR SMITH.

This is the way they work...ALL OF THEM. I am really getting sick of all the people complaining that I send such and such out to so and so and I have not got it back yet. I mean if you look, EVERY custom shop gets the same complaint.

quoted for truth

[adam_61550]

Just sent mine to White Wolf about a month ago. I'm already getting kinda jumpy. Oh well, I'll just be that much more atuned to my backup gun.

[Muzikman]

Also, this was about Doc Nickle, but it works for all custom shops.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1505829&postcount=42

[chairman_mao]

I think what needs to be said is WWA is a CUSTOM shop. When you order anything from a custom shop it takes time. They are all different so you can't compare one to another. If you want it fast don't get custom work done. I have never dealt with WWA but he is highly regarded for his finished product and you must be willing to wait if that's the product you want. I understand it's frustrating not having your marker but it was a choice YOU made. That's just my opinion

[PissedGodzilla]

If they want to run a good business, then they should be responsive to their customers... Their LACK OF COMMUNICATION is a reason I WOULD NEVER USE THEIR SERVICES
I don't care how busy they are, a good commecial property always answers their customers.

They only people B****ing are the ones that come in here and yell about how everyone should stop complaining.

Without their complaints, someone might not know how bad these people are with business.

booyah b****es

[FooTemps]

Okay, I quoted Muz for truth... now here's my explaination...

Customizers are few and far... Because of the lack of customizers and the high demand for custom parts/markers, customizers are often overloaded with work. You see, you ignorant pricks, rome wasn't built in a day... nor will a custom marker. You can complain and whine all you want, but the chance of getting your marker done with 5 days is near impossible... even with a decent staff. WW, Doc, Brad, and others all have this problem... They put up with your complaining and whining every day. It's not hard doing custom work, you've got to understand that there is no way to bang out this stuff so quickly.

Try making a DW style sluggo body... Just try it... you know, first countless hours designing concepts on the back of a napkin or on a piece of scratch paper, then more hours logged onto a 3d rendering program so you can translate it into cnc code... then more hours modifying the code for efficiency and speed. Then you wait for that part to finish and hopefully nothing breaks or there is a mistake. If there is, you go back to the code and start all over.

Customizers don't have it easy, give them a break. Look at people who make custom choppers, they make 2 to 30 choppers a year depending on the size of the shop. Paintball customizers don't have the benifit of a huge shop and large staff like West Coast Choppers... Oh well, you guys probably won't even read this since all you want to do is whine about how customizers are so slow. Try making it yourself next time if you want fast. Read some books on rendering and making code, learn some freakin engineering for your custom bolt, go build your god damn custom stuff yourself if you want it so damn fast.

[PissedGodzilla]

You see, you ignorant pricks, rome wasn't built in a day... nor will a custom marker.

don't be sittin there calling anyone an ignorant prick, it makes you look like the prick.

If you bothered to actually thinka bout what everyone is saying you would notice THAT THE REAL PROBLEM IS LACK OF RESPONSE!,

If WW or anyone else at least took the time to respond to the people how are giving them money, and let them know why things are taking so long, then I don't think there would be a problem at all!!! so you stop being ignorant and figure out the real problem before you come on here are say this kinda crap.. begone with you!

[FooTemps]

begone with you!

No.

Look, if you actually read their statements, they specifically say that they don't respond to the "are you done yet?" emails.

[PissedGodzilla]

The point is that, as a business, it is their primary responsibility to makes sure the customer is happy. you don't make your customer happy by not talking to them for months on end. it makes you lose business, and is not good business practice.

How long does it take to type "hey got you email your marker/part is halfway done, just lettin you know it's still here being worked on"

it took me five seconds, and it will bring them countless more cusomers with good reviews.

Simple as that.