Hammerhead Barrel: bs or legit?

[cledford]

[Miscue]

Yup...

It's trying to get a spidwad to shoot straighter with a better straw... it doesn't work that way.

[gc82000]

Yup...

It's trying to get a spidwad to shoot straighter with a better straw... it doesn't work that way.

Winchell's have the best straws.

[Automaggot68]

Winchell's have the best straws.

No no no, JACK IN THE BOX. They have gigantic Milkshake straws.

[AclowN]

as a hammerhead owner personally i would have to for the most part agree on it being a hype barrel, and is not all that much more accurate than any other good barrel.

however... although the accuracy is no greater, the hammerhead DOES put about an extra 20 foot of distance on the ball compared to a nonrifled barrel... this doesnt really matter or make alot of difference in speedball which is why its no real superiority in tournament play.... on the scenario field this barrel has become quite attractive though...

just my two scents on it, smelly ones at that flame away at me, yes i like hammerhead, yes i believe in the fact that the rifling does affect it.... make it more accurate? not really, bout the same... but the extra distance is nice on a scenario field..

[Mister Sinister]

however... although the accuracy is no greater, the hammerhead DOES put about an extra 20 foot of distance on the ball compared to a nonrifled barrel...

And exactly how does it add 20 more feet? Does it back spin it like a flatline? as far as I know thats the only other way to add distance. Once the ball is out of the barrel 300 fps should be 300fps...

[Mike Smith]

For those of you who think the hammerhead is all hype, you're right....

That's why Hammerhead will let you try one out for a day of paintball, for free. If you see their trailer, take your driver's license with you and "borrow" one of their barrels. They know you will not like it, will see no difference between your barrel and their barrel, and will not buy from them...

For those of you who do have a hammerhead.... Shhhhhhhhhhh..... Be quiet.

[Plaguetk]

I have been using a HammerHead for right at about a year now and I love it. The thing that I have noticed the most since I have been using it is that I will have more consistant breaks at further distances. Did I see improved accuracy? Yes I did, but it wasn't anything major to stand up and shout about. As for more distance..... That one is still up in the air, but I will say that the flight pattern of the paint did improve some.

Overall for my setup and style of play the barrel works great for me, but may not work for the next person. That's what makes them so great though. What other company will let you try their product before you buy it in this day and age?

[Mosfet]

So screw the barrels, lets start working on making these with the softer shells!



oh yeah... and no pepper stuff...

[bryceeden]

Back to the facts, when I shot about 150 rounds of Hellfire paint though a 2k2 timmy with a Hammerhead it shot GREAT! Comparing it to my friends impulse with a freak kit (both the timmy and impulse were using compressed air) the timmy w/ HH shot about 40 feet further and it was pretty much ball on ball from about 150 feet on this pole about 10 inches thick! My gestimate is that there was about a 3-5 inch ball deviation.

Typlically I would call BS on this statement, but after testing the Armson Stelth barrel I have found that if you use a small boar paint in a large boar rifeled barrel you get a slopy backspin which does shoot further.

Back on topic I tested a HH barrel, it was OK but definatly not worth what is cost.

[CodeMA]

TAKE THE PEPPER OUT...thats what would make it fun Were is your sence of decency man?


Seriously though... 3 of my teamates use hammerhead kits, are they a mirical barrel? NO...but do they keep up with and exceed say, a Boomstick, yes... a single bore Hammerhead is compeitively priced with a Boombstick... Barrel kit wise, are they the best, mabey not, but Id take one over a freak or Arcadius for sure... just from personal experiance...

[hitech]

It's trying to get a spidwad to shoot straighter with a better straw... it doesn't work that way.

But if you rifled the straw....



BTW, Tom is very unlikely to post in this thread. Why? Because very few people will believe him (that don't already do). Tom has already stated that rifling does NOT improve accuracy. He's tired of talking to a wall. Everyone already has their minds made up. They don't care what his extensive testing showed. Or what all the other research on the aerodynamics of spheres.

To those of you who think this thing works. I assume you have NO idea why? You've shot some paintball through it and it appears to be more accurate. Well, that isn't even worth calling a test. Hammerhead lets you try it out at a field? That's even less worthy a test that owning one and claiming it works. If you want to know if it works you need to TEST it. And it needs to be done such that it produces statistically significant results. Firing 100 paintballs through it and 100 paintballs through a different barrel are not statistically significant enough.

[G3PB]

Physics 101....you cannot spin-stabilize a sphere. There is a reason why early 19th century firearms manufacturers developed conical shaped "bullets" for use in rifled barrels.

[Chris42050]

Also spinning a paintball only spins the shell of the ball not the paint inside.

[rabidchihauhau]

Please do not lump Armson barrels in with anyone else's claims of 'spinning paintballs with internal rifling'.

Pro-Team has never claimed that the rifling spins the ball; we have always claimed that the idea was - a, give a better, more uniform seal on the ball (more surface area for imperfectly round 'spheres' to butt up against) and b - presenting the ball flat on when it exits the barrel.

That was always the objective and testing (Tom's among them) have shown those claims and those theories to be the most accurate description to date of what is happening.

Straight rifling has the same effects.

Other than the flatline (backspin, magnus effect), and other than a separate system rotating the ball up to speed, no barrel out there is going to provide fast enough rotation to gain any stability.