"Mystery Reg" Unveiled

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  • -=Squid=-

    #61
    Who can pull faster than 16 bps?

    I for one know that I can...

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    • BlackVCG
      Grubby Owner

      • Oct 2000
      • 4956

      #62
      It was stated earlier that the AKA reg. doesn't "dump" as much as the other regs. because it "reacts" faster. While this may be true, the "reaction" time is entirely dependent on how fast the gun dumps air from its chamber and the dwell time of the valve in the gun. Assuming it's an electronic gun with a poppet valve.

      The performance really doesn't mean anything because the output pressure is obviously higher than most of the other regs. Shift the output pressure down in line with that clump of reg. recharge curves and then look at how "impressive" it is...
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      • DK1
        Registered User
        • Oct 2001
        • 384

        #63
        Originally posted by BlackVCG
        The performance really doesn't mean anything because the output pressure is obviously higher than most of the other regs. Shift the output pressure down in line with that clump of reg. recharge curves and then look at how "impressive" it is...
        Actually, unless I completely missed what you're getting at, it's just that none of the other regs made it to the original pressure very quickly. The CCM and Fatty both got back to original PSI slower, and the ICD reg overpressurized. The rest of the regs didn't get back to the starting point. If you look at the line where all the origins are, you can see that they are all the same. All the regs were set to 300psi output.

        As a side, the tests weren't ran by AKA, and afaik nor were they specifically for testing this individual reg. Haveblue just likes to dyno stuff... this reg got tossed to him, so he put it to the dyno.

        DK1

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        • Steelrat
          I meant to...uh, nevermind
          • May 2003
          • 5375

          #64
          ^^^^^^^^

          I think DK1 is correct, its not that the 2L was set higher, its just that most of the regs failed to reach their original pressure, at least within the time period shown on the graph.

          Its odd, but I seem to sense some reluctance to accept the performance of the AKA reg. You know, there are companies other than AGD that make great stuff. AKA really took it on the chin when they went up against SP, lets at least give them kudos for continuing to come out with superior products.


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          • TheTramp
            Registered User
            • Jan 2001
            • 4019

            #65
            Considering how many people here go on about the best cps I suprised that there isn't more excitment about this reg.

            An inline that can re-charge this fast is one more more bump that been smoothed out in the road twords the 35 bps people think they need.
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            -Charlie Papazian

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            • FSU_Paintball
              (well, not any longer)
              • Aug 2002
              • 618

              #66
              Originally posted by Steelrat
              AKA makes great stuff, imagine what they could have done if SP didn't shut down the electronic marker line they made.

              Hmmmmm.... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... wait and see



              P.S. I would like to see how this stacks up against an RT. Too bad AGD doesn't make an inline RT (well, not as of now anyways).
              Last edited by FSU_Paintball; 06-28-2004, 01:38 PM.
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              • PsychoBaller
                Gone are my SFL days...
                • Nov 2000
                • 1952

                #67
                Does look like a little turd.... still think AGD's valve is better, and 3)... its a little turd

                But props to AKA for maintaining their ability to make new great products despite the SP Nazis

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                • matt-o
                  eater of babies
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 910

                  #68
                  TK should make an inline RT reg, cant be too hard to adapt the reg from the RT mags to fit as an inline, its already super small too
                  WAS'ed angel speed

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                  • -=Squid=-

                    #69
                    Originally posted by matt-o
                    TK should make an inline RT reg, cant be too hard to adapt the reg from the RT mags to fit as an inline, its already super small too
                    TK has already stated you cant adapt the Retrovalve reg to an inline. I believe I read that somewhere anyways...

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                    • Evil Bob
                      Evil Overlord
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 1217

                      #70
                      This just in.... AKA has just received a cease and desist order from Smart Parts, as AKA's new reg is in obvious violation of SP's latest patent on "AIR" and anything having to do with moving air. Your lungs are also in direction violation so expect to be receiving a request to have them removed.

                      -Evil Bob

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                      • FutureMagOwner
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 3354

                        #71
                        man first microsoft took my skin now smart parts is taking my damn lungs!

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                        • nicad
                          wannabe newbe
                          • May 2002
                          • 992

                          #72
                          you laugh, but look up patent #5,957,119.. I'm willing to bet 2Liter is using what they are calling a "pressure balancing device" -- a balanced spool poppet valve for the input. I guess AKA made it the right way tho, seeing that the maxflow uses this same technology (or at least used to), but they are almost on the bottom of the chart!! how sad.

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                          ColinMoritz

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                          • mkmckinley
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 98

                            #73
                            Originally posted by dave_p
                            looks like a polished turd.

                            Everyone knows that you can't polish a turd.

                            I like it when stuff looks like this. Clean lines. Solid.

                            "You can't polish a turd" -Charlie
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                            • mkmckinley
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 98

                              #74
                              Originally posted by -=Squid=-
                              TK has already stated you cant adapt the Retrovalve reg to an inline. I believe I read that somewhere anyways...
                              Not exactly a retor valve, but I have an old Air America reg that's pretty much and inline AIR reg: it even uses the same reg seat.

                              "You can't polish a turd" -Charlie
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                              • DiRTyBuNNy
                                Registered User
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 4854

                                #75
                                does anyone know why the Custom Products Reg wasn't tested?
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