Possible Victory For WDP over SP.....

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  • spleefstylez
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    • Jun 2003
    • 1743

    #46
    Whaaaaa?!?! Nicad has stopped all work on the hAir? Huh? Say it aint so!

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    • Cyberious
      a.k.a Professor Porn Wang
      • Jan 2002
      • 561

      #47
      Very Cool. I hope WDP doesn't pull a Smart Parts now. I would hope that they allow the rest of the industry to benefit from this. To Tom's point there is little that affects AGD yet. Let's hope though that things are opened up so that the option to begin a new electro is there. I really hope the hAir issue gets worked out though.

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      • warbeak2099
        That is my foot!
        • Jan 2004
        • 4447

        #48
        I'm happy and yet at the same time fearful. As Tom said, what would stop WDP from just cutting in on SP's action instead of stopping it. They could certainly do that and not even suffer the PR disaster like SP did. They can merely blame it all on SP saying, "we'renot a part of that stuff, it's SP who's going around making money off of the little guy". All the while WDP could be in on it, just using SP as fodder so that no "WDP boycotts" happen. However I am happy that a blow (as miniscule as it may be) has been struck to SP and the Gardner brothers. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how WDP uses their new power in the industry. Let's hope it's for the good of the sport and not for the sake of more $$$. Anyways, I don't think anyone can resist doing what I'm about to do...

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        • pop tart
          Registered User
          • Mar 2004
          • 17

          #49
          YAY its about time

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          • Lohman446
            Useful posts: 7
            • Jun 2003
            • 9315

            #50
            Just... how is this a blow, really to SP?

            They already have cross liscensing agreements with Dye for the spool valve (smart move, cause they were going to get mauled by Dye).

            As stated above, I bet all there liscensing agreements are valid still... LOL - two owners just means you need one owners permission, and SP has cashed in with teh big boys (Planet Eclipse, National, Dye) already.

            SP is not going to be hindered from making there electronics, just stopping others from using them will be a pain. But, those agreements from before, are highly unlikely to have a void clause involving the patent, in fact I will BET that those agreements acknowledged SPs rights to that patent. Ok, so WDP has rights too.. so SP cant sue them,
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            • TheAngelGuy.com
              Registered User
              • Apr 2002
              • 309

              #51
              Funny....
              I keep seeing a young lady walking around a huge group of industry professionals hold up a big.....wait.....its a........Giant #2?!?!?!?!

              Ding Ding Ding

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              • KRAKMT
                Registered User
                • Sep 2003
                • 196

                #52
                Sorry Love ya Mr. Mills but this is not correct. Unless I misread, the procedure that occured was summary judgment which means. WDP sued and smartparts countersued. WDP filed what is called a motion for summary judment which means - here are the indisputable facts and we win as a matter of law. It is a pretrial process. Not often granted, more often overturned and can be directly appealed without trial. The problem is in the "indisputable facts" as a lawyer most facts are disputable. Was a well written ruling. What I am saying is it was not a stipulation but a pretrial motion. Small thing.


                Originally posted by billmi

                The case was scheduled for trial in January. This settlement beforehand means they agreed to forego a jury trial and let the judge arbitrate (faster process, and I don't believe arbitrate is the correct term when it's the judge doing it as opposed to a third party, but that's the concept.) Anyhow, when parties agree to something like that, one of the conditions is typically that the decision will be considered final and binding, unlike proceeding to trial where the could appeal later.




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                • MaChu
                  AO's HalfBreed Mix
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 425

                  #53
                  Now, if YOU were WDP, and you see that most of the paintball players are very willing to give their money to SP in the form of royalties AS WELL as buy their products, wouldn't you want in on the action?
                  We can just have faith and hope that WDP is morally better than SP. I like to think that WDP like AGD has always been about futher evolving the sport of paintball with support and innovation, not hindering it with lawsuits and patent badgering for money. I just wish a WDP rep would post and say something that could give us a little light to the future, either happy or dark.
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                  • edweird
                    IP lawsuits > innovation
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 1859

                    #54
                    I dont know if WDP would be that willing to climb in bed with the evil empire that is smart parts... after all it was smart parts that single handedly stole 99% of WDP's sponsored teams and damn near ended tourney popularity of the angel line of markers.

                    my chips are on the fact WDP is still bitter about this and the minute they get partial ownership they sacrifice the patent to the pagan gods of humility. Therefore they get the popular image as the company that killed the drama rather than perpetuate it.

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                    • InexactMelissa
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 210

                      #55
                      I'm with Edwierd....if WDP comes out looking like the hero, that's a few more Angels they're going to sell, plus getting the cut of everything else. Regardless of the eventual outcome, I was giggling like a maniac in my cube this afternoon reading the judgement.




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                      • nirvana1234
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 242

                        #56
                        They won!

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                        • Miscue
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                          • Oct 2000
                          • 7105

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Cryer
                          Anyone else find this fact absolutely ehfin' hillarious?
                          It's absolutely beautiful! I might just have to go out and buy an Angel now, just because.

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                          • Miscue
                            Super Moderator

                            • Oct 2000
                            • 7105

                            #58
                            Originally posted by TheAngelGuy.com
                            Funny....
                            I keep seeing a young lady walking around a huge group of industry professionals hold up a big.....wait.....its a........Giant #2?!?!?!?!

                            Ding Ding Ding

                            Is anyone safe?
                            Hurm, now there are two companies with a broad patent. Eek! I dunno how the law works, but I wonder if one has rights to sue for infringement without the other's involvement.

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                            • shartley
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                              • Mar 2001
                              • 9169

                              #59
                              Originally posted by RogueFactor
                              I hope you are right. I think it would revive the fun that paintball was before all the litigation.

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                              • TheTramp
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                                • Jan 2001
                                • 4019

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Miscue
                                Hurm, now there are two companies with a broad patent. Eek! I dunno how the law works, but I wonder if one has rights to sue for infringement without the other's involvement.

                                Yes they can. I don't see why everyone's so happy. The only company protected by this is WDP. AKA is still screwed for example and this will in no way make a new electro from AGD any closer to reality .
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