****Superbolts are Being RECALLED****

[raehl]

Psssst......

Just a reminder that it mightbe a good idea to get the Superbolt "ad" on the mainpage down since they're being recalled.

On the recall itself - everyone should keep in mind that the cause of the defect in the superbolts has yet to be determined - which is probably why Tom is trying so hard to get his hands on all the failed superbolts. It may not necessarily be a design flaw - it's quite possible that there was a problem in the manufacturing process in a certain run of the bolts, or perhaps a certain group of material used by AGD on some of the bolts wasn't up to snuff. There are plenty of variables that enter in the process through design, testing and production that could cause these failures. Also note that some people seem to have used their bolts extensively without a problem - also an indication that the problem may be limitted to a certain subset of the bolts available.

So in essence, send your bolt back in and calm down until more information is available.

- Chris

[tremis]

When I was referring to narrow minded people, I was referring to paintball players in general, not specifically people here, though I am sure there are a few people like that on these boards. The reason that this is the only BB I read is because of the large amount of quality posters. (is that even the right word?) I agree that the derlin problem is a very legitimate safety concern. As far as the power piston breaking off, I am just questioning whether or not that happened. The guy who spent 50 or so bucks on it and had it break, supposedly threw it away. That is a flag for me right there. Somebody threw away a new $50 product cause it broke? And it was made by a company with great customer service? And he thought it more vuluable to throw it away than get an obvious free replacement? Sounds suspect to me. Then again I was raised to question things. If something doesnt make sense, question it, there is probably a reason it doesnt make sense. The person who told me that the super bolt piston is attached the same way as a normal bolts Piston is what I cosider a reliable source. I'll take it as the truth, this person has never told me something untrue. I cant say that for some of the people here, not that I have been misled, its just a lack of contact with you fine people has left me with no way to prove that you guys wont steer me wrong. Though I do think a number of people here are trustworthy. And I base that completly off of the things people put in their posts. The kid who said he got shot with a power piston isnt familiar to me, so I have no reason to belive things he says. I'll have to resort on whether or not it makes sense. In this case there is dubious information. Like I said, that will make me inclined to not believe him. I didnt say it wasn't the truth.Just that I dont believe it. And I never said it was a conspiracy, just that it wouldnt suprise me.
I am sure that everybody that has heard of a problem with superbolts has questioned why its doing what its doing. All I have done is question whether it is actually doing what it is thought to be doing.

Why does a shocker shoot farther than a mag? You could debate forever as to why this happens. But nobody would ever figure it out until they questioned if it actually does. Which by the way it does NOT. But I have had many a person that I dont claim to know very well,claim that shockers do shoot farther. So I just say prove it. Thats what I see here, sombody I do not know asking me to take his word that something happened that seems doubtful. I simply say prove it. But alas it was thrown away. I NEVER said purposely.

And you say that in your years of experience, its narrow minded to question things. I call it foolish to assume that everything people tell you is the truth.

I have yet to speculate what this bolts problem might be. I am just questioning if certain problems do actually exist. Its simple, question everything. If you question 1000 things that somone has told you and one time it turns out they wern't right, it would seem worth it to me, to get to the truth. When the bolt came out they said less recoil, I questioned that too. Through my thought process, its seemed reasonable and correct, so I questioned it no more. When the power piston issue seems answered I will no longer question that either. I'll still question everything else. Sorry if that upsets you, but thats the what I do in an attempt to keep the wool from in front of my eyes.

Tremis

[shartley]

tremis

And you say that in your years of experience, its narrow minded to question things. I call it foolish to assume that everything people tell you is the truth.

I have yet to speculate what this bolts problem might be. I am just questioning if certain problems do actually exist. Its simple, question everything. If you question 1000 things that somone has told you and one time it turns out they wern't right, it would seem worth it to me, to get to the truth. When the bolt came out they said less recoil, I questioned that too. Through my thought process, its seemed reasonable and correct, so I questioned it no more. When the power piston issue seems answered I will no longer question that either. I'll still question everything else. Sorry if that upsets you, but thats the what I do in an attempt to keep the wool from in front of my eyes.

I think I just convinced myself that until I either see the bolt with the power piston that was shot out or I hear from what I consider a reliable source that it happened, I am going to discount the story as false. Now I am not saying that is IS false, just that I belive it to be false. I used to belive in santa too. As it turns out, some things I belive/dont belive are sometimes wrong.

[Phil]

Talk about drama... Get a life folks...

[MINIMAGMAN]

HAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAAHAAHHA
well said

[shartley]

[dawump]

What a thread!

I think that most of us are loyal AGDers here. The best thing we can do is keep an eye open for people with Mags and ask them if they are using a superbolt and generally get the word out without causing hysteria.

Any product failure that can result in physical injury is a very serious thing. I think that avoiding that should be the focus right now, while treading gently. The media just love stuff like this.

Keith

[AGD]

I am closing this thread so I can take it off the top. See the "I'm Sorry" thread in the main forum to see that in fact there was no injury from our products.

AGD