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  • Lurker27
    Registered User
    • Jun 2004
    • 287

    #121
    Not to be a killjoy here, but unless I'm missing something, this doesn't sound too horribly complicated. I'm guessing that the electrical solenoid in the cocker version of the Q valve is positioned where the hammer would be. The pulse pushes back against the valve stem, which is sealed via the air pressure on the cupseal. To prevent too much battery drain, a spring could be used to naturally push against the pressure of the charged air chamber. This jives with all the tech specs I've seen.

    With a mag, you'd be using the same "large solenoid valve" idea to dump into the dump chamber, with no sear, so that the act of dumping actuates the valve and pushes the ball. This also seems to jive with what I've seen (no sear assembly).

    Of course, the freestyle from ICD is pretty similar to a mag...A similar style retrofit is probably possible.

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    • Lurker27
      Registered User
      • Jun 2004
      • 287

      #122
      ...If I'm right, then, it wouldn't work in a bushy, because the bolt and valve assemblies are linked, unlike a cocker. But that's just me.

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      • PBX Ronin 23
        Registered User
        • Jul 2004
        • 518

        #123
        Originally posted by wantamag
        could you guys worth the "q-valve " into a buhsy? woul;d it perform better?
        Yes it would on a Bushy but there would be modification done to the gun that would be considered "custom" and as such, isn't a drop-in.

        Originally posted by Lurker27
        Not to be a killjoy here, but unless I'm missing something, this doesn't sound too horribly complicated. I'm guessing that the electrical solenoid in the cocker version of the Q valve is positioned where the hammer would be. The pulse pushes back against the valve stem, which is sealed via the air pressure on the cupseal. To prevent too much battery drain, a spring could be used to naturally push against the pressure of the charged air chamber. This jives with all the tech specs I've seen.

        With a mag, you'd be using the same "large solenoid valve" idea to dump into the dump chamber, with no sear, so that the act of dumping actuates the valve and pushes the ball. This also seems to jive with what I've seen (no sear assembly).

        Of course, the freestyle from ICD is pretty similar to a mag...A similar style retrofit is probably possible.
        Your guess is a little off but you are close to the gist of the valve's working principles.

        The only thing with the Freestyle is that it still needs an off-the-shelf 'noid to actuate a mechanism in order to dump the air. The mQ-Valve doesn't.
        Last edited by PBX Ronin 23; 10-14-2004, 10:07 PM.
        /s/ Mel C. Maravilla
        PBX Battlezone
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        PBX@NYC Paintball

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        • lunatickyle007
          "Slightly Trigger Happy"
          • Sep 2003
          • 63

          #124
          It not an automag anymore it's something else.
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          • PBX Ronin 23
            Registered User
            • Jul 2004
            • 518

            #125
            Originally posted by lunatickyle007
            It not an automag anymore it's something else.
            Right you are. It's another option that hopefully would lead to players buying Mags now that there's a viavle electro mod soon to be available.
            /s/ Mel C. Maravilla
            PBX Battlezone
            PBX Paintball Station Inc.
            PBX Ballistix Lab
            PBX@NYC Paintball

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            • OldSchoolVM68
              Registered User
              • Jan 2004
              • 50

              #126
              I think its awesome. Looks like a mag, if you tell people its a mag there going to belive it.(IMO thats most of it) And maby they can work with AGD to get a new electronic mag out there.

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              • Athius
                Registered User
                • Apr 2003
                • 533

                #127
                We all want to see a video of the mq-valve mag in action!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

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                • OldSchoolVM68
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 50

                  #128
                  Originally posted by lunatickyle007
                  It not an automag anymore it's something else.
                  So is a mag still a mag with an X-valve and hyperframe (or hair)? What if agd didnt maket he x-valve would all of you x-valve guns not be considered mags? Be optomistic, maby this design is superior to the AIR or RT valve system. I think its awesome hes trying to get a mag like gun back on top here. The majority of you say its not a mag because of the valve just because AGD didnt make it. Then all of you need to start looking down on the Hair, its not made by AGD or his work.

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                  • slade
                    Carpe Noctem
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 3442

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Tunaman
                    Hey! You gotta get in line man! And the line is MIGHTY Long!
                    well nicad is going to mill it... what are you going to do with it? (not doubting you tuna, just asking!)
                    xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                    68/30 PE nitro tank
                    cp unimount
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                    • danheneise
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 531

                      #130
                      Originally posted by slade
                      well nicad is going to mill it... what are you going to do with it? (not doubting you tuna, just asking!)
                      he could put a purdy design on it and package it on a new marker with some nice tunamag parts

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                      • PBX Ronin 23
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 518

                        #131
                        /s/ Mel C. Maravilla
                        PBX Battlezone
                        PBX Paintball Station Inc.
                        PBX Ballistix Lab
                        PBX@NYC Paintball

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                        • Mad_Man
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 51

                          #132
                          Alright, I have a few questions about this valve.

                          First off, can it be used with co2 and to what effect?

                          Also, is there any update on the possibility of packaging this valve with a board and trigger, as "drop into" the intelliframe?

                          Thanks,
                          Don
                          [AO-MA]

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                          • Southparkrocks
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 271

                            #133
                            God it'd look so cool with a rpg 90* chimera frame and a logic alpha rail.

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                            • player4
                              AO*WI
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 558

                              #134
                              price.................
                              All black ULE RT Pro:
                              x valve
                              ule body
                              intelliframe with dye sticky 3's
                              nitroduck 68/45

                              soon to have:
                              something special.....hopefully

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                              • WenULiVeUdiE
                                Force of Nature Staff
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 1982

                                #135
                                PBX( Mel) and crew are at the Cup now. They are releasing their PBX cocker.
                                Hey, look at that! It's Santa!

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