Tac One vs '04 Autococker

[jrod]

Hi, guys, I'm new here so please be nice . I've been a Tippmann user for the last 10 years, and I finally want something better. I play mostly woods/recball. After lurking on this forum for a while, I was all set on getting a Tac One. I went to my local shop to do a little touch and feel. I love it. It feels really nice. However, right next to the Tac One was an '04 Autococker (for $50 less). I know cockers are good. And the sales guy was really pushing it. But, help me out. What are the benefits of an AGD over a cocker. I'm not new to paintball, but I am new to the higher end markers. I was able to dry fire both markers, and I'm a little bothered by the ablility to short stroke the cocker. However, I realize that its a difficulty that can be overcome with a little time spent shooting.

So anyways, I know this is an AGD forum. But the members here seem very informed. I would really appreciate the help.

[Blazestorm]

Tac-one is this - Easier to Shoot Fast
Easier to Upgrade
Has Anti-Chopping System (LVL 10)
Same Barrel-Threads as Cockers
A Good company backing it

04' Cocker is this - Uhm... Cheaper?

I'm not too biased either, I love cockers + mags + my cyborg all equally.

For the price the Tac-One cannot be beat, simple as that.

AND WTF WELCOME TO AO!!! LOLERTAFFY

[HateMachine]

Go for the mag dude

I've owned both, and guess which on i kept... the mag. Let me break it down The cocker was a whinny women that was always going pre-menstral on me with over complicatedness
The mag was the women that never gave me back talk and has never failed to provide for me

[frischtr]

Tac-one is this -
Easier to Upgrade

Have to disagree with that... One thing cockers have is that they are THE most upgradable marker on the market...

I'd take the Tac, though...

[Chronobreak]

Have to disagree with that... One thing cockers have is that they are THE most upgradable marker on the market...

I'd take the Tac, though...

most upgradeable and easily upgradebale are two diff things

get a mag u wont be dissapointed.
i wish i could say the same for the cocker

[azza]

Id have to say get the mag, you wont regret it!
Plus Im guessing the store guy would be pushing the 'cocker is cos then he can try sell a bunch of aftermarket unecersary(sp?) "upgrades" to you.

Cheers
Aaron

[AutomagRT1483]

If you like to tinker with your guns, go for the cocker.
If you don't, go for the Tac.

[BrockSampson]

Well, since you're posting this question here, maybe on some level you've already got your mind made up and would just like reassurance? If you're looking for ways to rationalize the Mag over a Cocker, this is the place to do it! Consider this another vote for the Tac.

[Blazestorm]

Have to disagree with that... One thing cockers have is that they are THE most upgradable marker on the market...

I'd take the Tac, though...

Easy as in to change the frame it requires no adjusting whatsoever, you just slap on a frame.

Same thing with the rail, if you get an RTP style you use a bearing to hold the sear-in place instead of a pin, for valve, interchangable, same with body and foregrip.

Cocker upgrades aren't "easy" to install... except maybe a bolt.

[SpecialBlend2786]

Welcome to AO!

I'd go with the Tac-One as well. The cocker is a wonderful marker however....

[JesseB]

are we talking VF tactical versus TAC-ONE ?
Cause if so its 6 one way and half a dozen another. All going to be personal preferance there buddy... but a stock 04 there is no competition TAC one any day of the week

[Blazestorm]

VF tactical is an 04... just with ab camo anno and extended foregrip mount w/ reverse 15* ASA

No performance differences.

[JimInVA]

I am a cocker owner. My first marker was an `02 Vertical Autococker. It was not very consistant at the chrono or on the field. I quickly changed from CO2 to HPA and that helped tremendously. Still not satisfied, I changed the inline regulator several times... ultimately settling on the Sidewinder. When it worked, it worked very well. It took a while to understand that the cocking rod (which would perpetually loosen during play) was causing most of my early problems.

As folks have said, the cocker has tons of upgrade options. As I began to put my wish list of upgrades together, I was amazed at how much money I was going to be spending (pneumatics, bolt, valve, eblade, etc). I ultimately settled on a
Freeflow Lotus E-Blade Autococker as it had most everything I wanted. NOTHING would move me from this baby! And then I won an AGD TAC ONE...

Suddenly I had a new love...

The TAC ONE was so much lighter and it was consistant beyond belief. The ease of adjusting it when chrono'ing made me swoon with delight. I will say that it is no where near as efficient on a bottle of air as my cockers were... but that's a factor that I'm willing to deal with given all of its other strengths. You can see comments from my first use here. Other than the ULE, I'm not sure that there's really anything else to add... and I'm not yet convinced that even that's a necessity.

All in all... for the money, I don't know of a better buy for the woodsball/scenario type of play that I enjoy. It even comes stock with a quite nice J&J barrel (if you're not yet ready to purchase a barrel system).

I hope this helps with your decision making process.

Jim

(P.S. I'm taking offers on the Lotus Freeflow... )

[The Frymarker]

Welcome to the forums!!!!

First off cheaper doesn't always mean better! When my husband and I had an indoor field we would see a lot of autocockers, the biggest problem was timing them, like most people stated in this thread if you like to tinker get a cocker.

There's a lot of people that swear by them. I personally never liked them, too many parts for me, I like things simple.

I have played with a lot of markers from Angels to Tippmanns, electronic to mechanical. 2 weeks ago I got to play with my first AGD marker The Tac One. I love it and I sprayed paint pretty fast with it as well.

I played all day 8 hours worth and not one break, I personally thought the Tac One for Scenario play is great!

Tac One


Hope this helps!!!

[pointm@n]

Of course the owner was pushing you towards the cocker. You'd be in his shop every week "upgrading" it to be just as good as a stock Tac1. Also all the money he'll make when the cocker needs timing and breaks. After he sells you the Tac1, he'll only see you when you need paint and air since the Tac1 is built like a rock (in a good way).