All this talk about SP, but what would u do if....

[Lohman446]

I would never submit myself to a sponsorship by SP, I would rather buy my own stuff like I have been doing. Plus I dont think they could convince me to drop my viking with any of the guns they put out anyways.

... but what if the offered you a deal involving your own designed Shocker/Impulse/Nerve, all the paint you needed, entrance fees, plus royalties off teh sale of "your" gun.

[Pump Scout]

Personally, there's no way in Hades I'd promote SP. I've found them distasteful for a long time, and hold them responsible for some of the worst trends, hype, and so-called "advances" in paintball. Paying my own way is a small price for being able to enjoy this sport with a clean conscience.

[gc82000]

I dont think for a partial sponsorship. I already got that. For a half or full sponsorship more then likely not. I dont see thier guns as top level guns as such as a timmy, trixie, X/emag, viking, excalibur, cyborg, DM4 or any where near an angel, yeah I am really biased here. I would not mind any other brand, Evil, Empire, Dye, *AGD *.

[Mosfet]

I'd take it. I have no team and never played tourney, but if I had the chance I would.
I personally don't like their business tactics, especially after they went for my favorite company AKA, but I like their products... ok some of their products.... ok the Shocker is nice....

Business is business. Yeah its a sucky world, and it isn't all peaches and cream like we'd like it to be. And yeah that "Rebound" thing was the stupidest "Feature" to have ever come out in the world, but that can be replaced with a non-rebound board.

I don't like everything our government does either, but I served in the Army reserves and did my part.

Nothing is really ever how we truely like it to be. SP did some stupid stuff, and I'm getting a shocker. Apple did a similar thing when they pulled back all licenses to make Apple clones, but I'm typing this on a Powerbook. M$..... don't need to go there, but I have a Windows PC at home.

Just condemn the action as a bad business action. Voice your opinion, and maybe they'll listen.
maybe not. At least their not paying you to wear "anti-Paintball- It should be banned and we should all play Lazertag or Tiddly Winks gear"

If it were truely an ideal world, there'd be no sueing of fellow companies, and Angels would cost $500 for the top line model, but its not.

I guess what I'm saying is I like some of the products but not all of the practices, much like about every other large company/organization on the face of the earth.

[Jeffy-CanCon]

I don't think it's right to enter a sponsorship deal where you are not happy with the company's products or policies. If you can't honestly promote and represent them, the deal is no good. My friends have been offered deals, and turned them down for those reasons. I admire that sort of integrity.

If you tell lies to promote a company you don't believe in, you're a hypocrite.

If you take their sponsorship and don't promote them, you're a fraud & a thief.

[Mosfet]

is it right to live in a country if you're not happy with all of its policies?
Is it right to work for a company if you're not happy with all of its policies, and this includes ALL of them down to layoffs.
Will you be the first to quit your job because your company lays off a developer to save money?

So.. Are you happy with your Microsoft Windows? or your Apple OS?
Both companies have done things far worse than SP?
Like Goodyear, or any of the top car manufacturers? I won't even go into that.

[Hey Its Vo]

I don't think it's right to enter a sponsorship deal where you are not happy with the company's products or policies. If you can't honestly promote and represent them, the deal is no good. My friends have been offered deals, and turned them down for those reasons. I admire that sort of integrity.

If you tell lies to promote a company you don't believe in, you're a hypocrite.

If you take their sponsorship and don't promote them, you're a fraud & a thief.

PLus if others companies see you screwing over another, then noone else will ever want to sponsor you.

[Mosfet]

I'd be able to take a sponsership from SP because I can with good conscience promote their good hardware and "software"
If they force us to use cheater boards in tourney's than, NO, but I'm pretty sure they don't.
As far as their tactics go, I think they've backed off quite a bit havn't they? Or will they always now and forever be the spawn of evil, and never deserve a second chance?

Looking at their products and news about the company, I think I can say that maybe now I can take a sponsership from them. A few months ago, probably not. Bounce is all right for recballers, and non tourney players, but as long as they don't push that stuff into tourneys that don't allow it, I'm fine.

Am I making sense?
summary = they seemed to have calmed down. They have resonably good products. Why not give them a chance? Take the sponsership. If they end up being big butts again, just don't renew the contract. Don't go and break it. No company looks down at people who don't renew a contract. Its why they exist. breaking them is bad. renewing or not renewing is just a part of the biz.

[vonort]

I would look at them spit in their face and say no thanks. I don't use c * r * a * p to play PB.

[Mosfet]

HAH! I would love to be there to se that! ^^^

[xXHavokXx]

Have a meeting with my two good buddies, Jim Beam and Jack Daniels so hopefully I wont remember the pain of them stealing my soul???

[Meph]

They offered to sponsor your team and/or give you discounts on markers and clothing.

You just had to promote SP and wear their logos.

What would you do?

Sorry but I know their quality. Their reliability.

I'd chose to use something I know wouldn't break down mid-game.

Be surprised to hear but some people actually are picky about their sponsors. Not all but enough.

[Thordic]

The hypocrisy of AO abounds in this thread.

[Jeffy-CanCon]

is it right to live in a country if you're not happy with all of its policies?
Is it right to work for a company if you're not happy with all of its policies, and this includes ALL of them down to layoffs.
Will you be the first to quit your job because your company lays off a developer to save money?

So.. Are you happy with your Microsoft Windows? or your Apple OS?
Both companies have done things far worse than SP?
Like Goodyear, or any of the top car manufacturers? I won't even go into that.

There are real differences between one set of choices and another.

I work for my government, though I disagree with a lot of their policies. But I'm free to publicly state my private opinions, and to work to change those policies through the poltical system. I'm not being asked to lie about my opinions, or to promote something I don't believe in. They pay me to churn out data, and that's what I do.

There is no hypocrisy or fraud in working hard for an employer you don't particularly like. Except in particular cases like an environmentalist building SUVs for GM, or a vegan working in a slaughterhouse.

I'm not saying anything against SP. Or Microsoft or Apple or Goodyear or Big Oil. I can use their products without agreeing with their policies, and without promoting them.

[Jeffy-CanCon]

The hypocrisy of AO abounds in this thread.

depressing, eh?