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  • coyote

    #46
    I don't think it's hypocrisy, I think it's misunderstanding....

    It's obvious that most posters here don't understand what a sponsorship entails.

    It is a job. you are there to wear the logo, use the gear, and sell the gear. Were the AA jersey, shoot the Nerve, and talk the world into doing the same.

    Most people thinks it means Santa Clause drops gear off at their door. Nope. I have one player that I sponsor through my shop. He gets gear and paint at cost because he brings me business. Whenever a player brings up that they need gear he is steering them my way.

    If you can't do that you don't have anything to offer a sponsor. You may get a deal, but you will eventually lose it.

    BTW, I have never carried Smart Parts gear. The Gardeners made an impression on me long before their patent nonsense. It was a poor impression. I don't like their outfit or their products. As a player my sense of integrity dictates that I refuse sponsorships from companies that I can't offer 100% of my effort and loyalty.

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    • RTDynaflow
      Registered User
      • Aug 2004
      • 320

      #47
      Originally posted by coyote
      I don't think it's hypocrisy, I think it's misunderstanding....

      It's obvious that most posters here don't understand what a sponsorship entails.

      It is a job. you are there to wear the logo, use the gear, and sell the gear. Were the AA jersey, shoot the Nerve, and talk the world into doing the same.

      Most people thinks it means Santa Clause drops gear off at their door. Nope. I have one player that I sponsor through my shop. He gets gear and paint at cost because he brings me business. Whenever a player brings up that they need gear he is steering them my way.

      If you can't do that you don't have anything to offer a sponsor. You may get a deal, but you will eventually lose it.

      BTW, I have never carried Smart Parts gear. The Gardeners made an impression on me long before their patent nonsense. It was a poor impression. I don't like their outfit or their products. As a player my sense of integrity dictates that I refuse sponsorships from companies that I can't offer 100% of my effort and loyalty.
      ^^^^^^^^


      Very well said.

      RTD

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      • Jeffy-CanCon
        veteran rec player
        • May 2003
        • 1309

        #48
        Originally posted by coyote
        I don't think it's hypocrisy, I think it's misunderstanding....

        It's obvious that most posters here don't understand what a sponsorship entails.
        ...
        I don't see the evidence of that. Jayloo's question was pretty clear, and just about every player here who posted something beyond "I agree with ____" seemed to understand that sponsorship was a trade of their goods for your promotion.

        Jeff P
        Secretary
        The Canadian Contingent Paintball Club
        Cousins - EMR - PaintStorm - Odyssey - StraightShot

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        • steveo356
          who shot me?
          • Oct 2003
          • 169

          #49
          Well if they offered, before id accept it wether it woudl be partial or full. id call up the guys at WDP and dye first cuz they're my faves. And if they even came near it I would take them. but the gun with the royaltys i mean that supreme thats like big money there. specialy considering a paintball carreer doesnt exactly mean multi millions a year unless maybe your dynasty( whom i dont realy liek ne ways}

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          • jayloo
            www.jayloo.com
            • Sep 2002
            • 1431

            #50
            Originally posted by Jeffy-CanCon
            I don't see the evidence of that. Jayloo's question was pretty clear, and just about every player here who posted something beyond "I agree with ____" seemed to understand that sponsorship was a trade of their goods for your promotion.
            I tried to keep it short and clear. If you accepted a sponsorship you must promote that company at any and all oportunities. Saying anything bad about your sponsor could cause you to loose your sponsorship QUICKLY.

            I appriciate everyones replies. Keep em coming.
            Visit Jayloo.com - Paintball & Video Gallery

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            • Athius
              Registered User
              • Apr 2003
              • 533

              #51
              I dont mind being sponsored by them but preferably i would like if WDP and Draxxus sponsored my team.

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              • REDRT
                Mags, Y use anything else
                • Apr 2004
                • 1854

                #52
                NO to SP!!! Unless say 5 years go by, the rest of the industry is pumping out super guns that are 2x as fast than now and AGD is unwilling to back us with something quicker than 3.2 . Only then if I was offered a sponsorship would I consider it.

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                • Glickman
                  *Insert Witty Phrase*
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 2673

                  #53
                  i know something about their quality too.

                  my dad/me have a backup imp that always works, and well for that matter.
                  and i have a primary shocker '03 that shoots faster then my matrix, and more reliable then any gun that ive ever own.

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                  • coyote

                    #54
                    I don't see the evidence of that. Jayloo's question was pretty clear, and just about every player here who posted something beyond "I agree with ____" seemed to understand that sponsorship was a trade of their goods for your promotion.

                    You getb it JeffCan-Con but some don't.

                    Some ( not all by any means) poster have written things to the effect of "I would say things off the record" or "I wouldn't try very hard". that indicates to me some misunderstanding. Player with that sort of attitude don't get, or keep sponsorships.

                    Jayloo's question was clear, and this is a great thread. It was some other posters that didn't seem to get it. They are the ones I was trying to reach.

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                    • barrel break
                      Too much time
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 643

                      #55
                      Originally posted by LittlePaintballBoy
                      Jim, I think it has come to more of a "We need money as a tournament team to BE a tournament team, i'll take whatever you got." kinda thing.
                      the reason i would say yes^^
                      I'm a sellout kinda guy on some issues, sorry industry
                      Defiant, w00t, w00t

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                      • coyote

                        #56
                        Not eveyone is obligated to have a strong opinion on this issue.

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                        • Digits
                          Canuckle
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 1329

                          #57
                          Dicount = no.. I wouldn't really want to pay cash for smart parts stuff as I like alot of companies better (not because of patents, just from experience)

                          But full.. Hell yes I would.. And I would support them to the fullest

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                          • Thordic
                            AFTICA
                            • May 2001
                            • 5986

                            #58
                            Its hypocrisy because I can point out threads with TONS of replies with people saying they hate smart parts, smart parts is evil, smart parts sucks, no one is every buying smart parts again, etc, and yet, as soon as the money is waved in front of their face, SP is everyone's best friend.

                            Thats hypocrisy. Are you so easily bought? Is free SP gear worth selling your integrity for?

                            Apparently so.

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                            • Digits
                              Canuckle
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 1329

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Thordic
                              Its hypocrisy because I can point out threads with TONS of replies with people saying they hate smart parts, smart parts is evil, smart parts sucks, no one is every buying smart parts again, etc, and yet, as soon as the money is waved in front of their face, SP is everyone's best friend.

                              Thats hypocrisy. Are you so easily bought? Is free SP gear worth selling your integrity for?

                              Apparently so.
                              ya ok.. I wouldn't buy anything smart parts.. But if there going to support my team then I would support them 100%.. Anybody whos not a complete moron would take a full sponsorship from them.. There guns arn't THAT bad

                              It's not hypocrisy.. It's comoon sense.. Do you think all the celebrities that endorse certain companies actually like them? No.. Todays world is based around money, if you don't got it, your nothing

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                              • vonort
                                Registered User
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 274

                                #60
                                I guess im a complet moron. But guess what at least i have morals. And I am able to sleep at night. I would never take anything from SP. I don't like their gear. And guess what I can afford to buy whatever I want. So I have no need for their freebies. Especially if it means I have to promote them.

                                Coyote I like you.
                                Proud supporter of the SP Boycott

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