Its been hard, but im gettin out of the mag family

[SOAD8789]

I sold my nice retro valve, level 10'd, intelliframed mag. it shot wonderfully, but now im gettin...

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=624917

ive wanted an omen ever since they came out, and now i'm getting one. I'll probably still get a mag just as a backup...sometime, once i get the money. its gonna be difficult having to actually mess with my guns settings when i go to play...but oh well. i'll still be hangin around here...

[RRfireblade]

Mmm, just so we understand you correctly, you sold your RT mag in order to get a PMI blowback?

And then you'd like to get another Mag as a backup to that?

For some reason I'm a little confused.

But......congrats.....I think.

[LaW]

Holy downgrade batman!

If it were me the whole thinking process would be reversed BUT... to each their own

[teufelhunden]

Wow, I'm quite sorry for you.

Give it 3 days of play, that gun will be back on Nation.

[frontrunner]

say it aint so man say it aint so

[Chronobreak]

i woulda kept the mag omen is a def downgrade btw they chop like mad(from what ice seen about 9 so far)

but if u like it thats all that matters

[SCpoloRicker]

Be nice.

Enjoy your marker. From what I know, Omens are not blowbacks. They are closed bolt, and ram operated electros. So its similar to a cocker in that it's closed bolt (which allows gnomes to give it more accuracy ), but unlike an E-cocker, its ram operated (not hammer and sear like low end blowbacks).

Chopping issues center around the feeding system, which I do not know enough to comment on technically. Laymans, I take it as a different system, but one that works once it is tuned to the user and equipment.

People used this argument with COPS and angels. I personally think theres a large amount of RTFM.

[teufelhunden]

Be nice.

Enjoy your marker. From what I know, Omens are not blowbacks. They are closed bolt, and ram operated electros. So its similar to a cocker in that it's closed bolt (which allows gnomes to give it more accuracy ), but unlike an E-cocker, its ram operated (not hammer and sear like low end blowbacks).

Chopping issues center around the feeding system, which I do not know enough to comment on technically. Laymans, I take it as a different system, but one that works once it is tuned to the user and equipment.

People used this argument with COPS and angels. I personally think theres a large amount of RTFM.

You, uhm, know wrong. They are STBBs like any Pirhana, except they're closed bolt and have that cam feed waste of life.

[Carbon]

Congrats, it is always nice to play the field of the different guns out there. Regardless of how the omen operates, hope its suits you. Just letting you know.....you be back!

[BD_Paintball]

enjoy the omen man. me and my bro both traded our mags for imps and its like night and day, i love my imp. rock the omen

[gc82000]

What Carbon said. Hope the gun fits you, and rock it well.

[tyrion2323]

Wow - a lot of hate from people who've probably never shot a tuned omen.

First of all, this trade is an UPGRADE for you. I shoot an Omen, shot a Logic Frame'd Mag and then traded it for WAS'd Imp and I can tell you for sure that that Omen outperforms the mag, hands down!

Don't get sucked into the blind 'mag cult on AO. Anything that's not a mag is automatically deemed "a downgrade." Omens are easy to tech, easily maintained, and the customer service is THE BEST ON THE MARKET. Better than AGD. They don't charge - it's a lifetime warranty with free repairs. Just realize that these are the same people who deemed trading a mech mag for a Matrix a "downgrade." Blind loyalty can't compete with true logic, but these people certainly try. That's why I don't post here much anymore - too culty.

The Omen CANNOT chop a ball if properly tuned. Just like an untuned Level10 will suck, an untuned CAM feed will chop. The thing is, CAMs are easily adjusted without taking the marker apart.

As for the functioning of the marker - it's a closed-bolt blow back. The CAM feed operates directly off of the bolt, so EVERY TIME the bolt moves, the CAM anti-chop paddles completely load a ball into the chamber. PLUS, with the new 1.5 board and HALO arms, you can shoot up to 25 bps and use a HALO.

Don't listen to all of these fools. They probably haven't ever even shot a properly tuned omen. I had loads of problems with my "dependable mag," but my Omen has always been perfect.

Good luck, and kick butt!

[LaW]

Wow - a lot of hate from people who've probably never shot a tuned omen.

First of all, this trade is an UPGRADE for you. I shoot an Omen, shot a Logic Frame'd Mag and then traded it for WAS'd Imp and I can tell you for sure that that Omen outperforms the mag, hands down!

Don't get sucked into the blind 'mag cult on AO. Anything that's not a mag is automatically deemed "a downgrade." Omens are easy to tech, easily maintained, and the customer service is THE BEST ON THE MARKET. Better than AGD. They don't charge - it's a lifetime warranty with free repairs. Just realize that these are the same people who deemed trading a mech mag for a Matrix a "downgrade." Blind loyalty can't compete with true logic, but these people certainly try. That's why I don't post here much anymore - too culty.

The Omen CANNOT chop a ball if properly tuned. Just like an untuned Level10 will suck, an untuned CAM feed will chop. The thing is, CAMs are easily adjusted without taking the marker apart.

As for the functioning of the marker - it's a closed-bolt blow back. The CAM feed operates directly off of the bolt, so EVERY TIME the bolt moves, the CAM anti-chop paddles completely load a ball into the chamber. PLUS, with the new 1.5 board and HALO arms, you can shoot up to 25 bps and use a HALO.

Don't listen to all of these fools. They probably haven't ever even shot a properly tuned omen. I had loads of problems with my "dependable mag," but my Omen has always been perfect.

Good luck, and kick butt!

Have I shot one, yes. Do I think its better than some of the mags I have shot? not really. Can it be a reliable, fast , cheap marker? Yeah sure. Have I seen a lot of problems with omens? I have... Some people have their opinions. I admit that not every omen has problems and some are perfect as you say but there are also plenty out there that are very problematic as well... To each their own. I still stick by my opinion that it is a downgrade.

[tyrion2323]

Let's settle this:

Description	Omen	Mag
Top LEGAL speed (no bounce, RT, Run-away)	15-20	9-13
Mechanical Anti-Chop System	YES	YES
Fully Externally adjustable (quickly between games)	YES	NO
Trigger Weight (stock)	~60g	~1lb
Completely free, all encompassing warranty	YES	NO
Easily Tuned	YES	YES
Reliable	YES	YES
If tuned correctly, will NOT chop	YES	YES
ASA Included (stock)	Rail on/off	normal ASA
Compatible with all loaders	YES	YES
Cool moving back block	YES	NO
Price	$450	$528

I apologize about all the extra space - can't figure out how to get rid of it.

[DiSoRdeR]

I remember you telling me on AIM that you were going to sell your Mag for an Omen. All I can say is... There better be pictures when you get it! Hope you enjoy it

EDIT: Just realized there are pics in that link