Its been hard, but im gettin out of the mag family

[LaW]

tyrion... how does this settle anything?

none of what you just posted would make me pick an omen over a mag with ult... sorry just would not happen.

[Smoke]

I've shot an Omen before (up at my local field/store, wasn't mine), and all I can say is......I probably won't be shooting one ever again.

[mfalcone15]

yea, hopefully u're new marker suits u well..... as long as you like how it shoots, then thats all that matters.... i used to shoot an Armotech Wg-65, which is nothing more than a STBB, but i liked it for the time i used it, as a matter of fact, i loved it. I have since converted to a mag, and i am loving it now too... what ever floats your boat!

[SpecialBlend2786]

I shot an Omen with the pdp chip thingy a few months ago.....the thing was fast

I personally love Omens, i think they are a great value for the money. The only thing that irked me was the chrono/recock tuning. I guess i'm jsut impacient

Have fun with your Omen dude!

[Z-man]

9-16... ehh... I got 16 myself before I resorted to rapid-fire. Not that I think you are going to change your stance on the matter but it's always nice to beable to produce a video not a chart.

Z-man's Old Video Of Him Twitching out 16Bps on His (ex) RT Pro

The other thing that it important to do when trying to make a point is not to say things like this:

Don't get sucked into the blind 'mag cult on AO. Anything that's not a mag is automatically deemed "a downgrade." Omens are easy to tech, easily maintained, and the customer service is THE BEST ON THE MARKET. Better than AGD. They don't charge - it's a lifetime warranty with free repairs. Just realize that these are the same people who deemed trading a mech mag for a Matrix a "downgrade." Blind loyalty can't compete with true logic, but these people certainly try. That's why I don't post here much anymore - too culty.

Not only does it bring questions up like "Why are you here in the midst of this wretched cult?" (etc.) but it's also just as ignorant as bashing a marker you have never shot.

Not only does AO NOT bash every marker that's not a Mag but I see more often that people come to AO because it's not like that, BECAUSE you can get a far less biased opinion.

Such talk (above)only brings the PBN to AO and we have enough of that at PBN.

[xXHavokXx]

We've sold alot of omens from our store and have only seen 2 back out of 11....not too shabby. Fast little buggers.

[Carbon]

Don't get sucked into the blind 'mag cult on AO. Anything that's not a mag is automatically deemed "a downgrade."

Dammit we're losing cult members! Quick! someone sacrifce another baby!

[Dirty Dakota]

Drivers License

Does that form of blindness cause my license to be revoked?

Speaking of rabbit holes, did you here the one about the blind guy that walked into the bar with an Omen?

I apologize I had to......sacrifice me.....be aware though, I am not a baby, I just whine a lot.

[lopxtc]

Not many left ... the classic-mag is gone, e-mag is gone, the x-mag is gone ... running out of things to sacrifice

Aaron

Dammit we're losing cult members! Quick! someone sacrifce another baby!

[tyrion2323]

My comments were aimed simply towards those who blindly issued the knee-jerk reaction of "downgrade!" and "it'll be back on PBN in 3 days." Sure, 'mags are nice markers, but they're not flawless, nor are they the "best" out there anymore. My chart was simply to show that for less money you can get a faster marker with a comprehensive warranty plan. This can proven simply by looking at the rates that other markers are selling compared to the automag. Very few people outside of AO are going to drop 5 bills on a mechanical marker with a partial warranty.

And as for why I'm in the middle of this "wretched AO Cult," which I never called it, I browse every now and again and rarely post any more. This is because AO is becoming as ridiculous as PBN. Nobody can speak against the majority anymore. Luckily, I've been wise enough to be able to form my opinions instead of just following the band-wagon. No matter whose band-wagon it is.

To respond to Z-Man. I've been on these forums for a long time. I am extremely confident with my assessment of AO and some of its sub-cults. If you want to debate that with me, you're going to have to do quite a bit to prove to me that AO's reputation outside of it's own web boundaries as a "Cult" has no basis. Have a good time.

[BD_Paintball]

i agree with tyrion2323 for the most part. there are poeple here that will always say that mags are better then imp, cockers, and in this case a omen. i know 1st hand that my all uped mag which had x-valve, warp, i-frame ect is not better then my imp with vision. the vision system is much better then the lvl 10 and you dont have to tune it. if you are going to play in tournaments you will not be able to get reactive trigger or you will be pulled. my brothers imp with EQ board and i-frame outshoots a kids x-mag at out local field, and are way faster then our old mags. maby its just that that kid has a slow trigger finger but i doubt it. the omen is better then the mec mag and SOME ppl still dont see the light. my friend had an omen when i had my mag and his omen would outshoot my mag most the time and he had no problems at all with the feeding.

[rkjunior303]

I'm going to chime in here.

now I own both a Micro-E and a Omen with a PDP chip. I love shooting both of them. They are both faster than I can ever shoot. Reliability, I've put over 20 cases through my Omen and I haven't had any problems with it. Aside from taking -2- minutes at the chrono to set my recock/chrono speed I am done. Alot of the misconceptions with the Omen is due to that setup. Alot of people wish to have a 'out of the box' marker they can air up and rail on ... The omen isn't that. The reg needs to be broken in or you will get lots of breaks.. You have to set the recock, and I do admit with the PDP chip its a little touchier to set. If you don't do that, the gun won't recock reliably or it will break balls due to too high of a recock. As for service, both AGD and PMI are both top notch. Everything I have ever needed from PMI, I have gotten -- free of charge. Why would you call a fast shooting, reliable, GOOD LOOKING marker a downgrade. If you take the service/quality as a wash and just look at sheer performance.

We all know, whatever gun you feel comfortable playing with -- that's the best gun. FOR YOU. I am happy with both my Omen and my mag.

And just for the record, at the last AONE day this past weekend. I shot my Omen more than my Micro-E. I got more than a few looks of "darn thats fast" and "what is THAT?"

[GT]

This is because AO is becoming as ridiculous as PBN. Nobody can speak against the majority anymore. Luckily, I've been wise enough to be able to form my opinions instead of just following the band-wagon. No matter whose band-wagon it is.

Tell me what is the AO bandwagon/platform? What is the majority?

[Z-man]

Edited: Not needed as part of this discussion.

[teufelhunden]

I think Z-Man does.

Anyway, teuf has to say that while many people here feel that 'Mags are chief in their market segment [which they tend to be], most people recognize the shortfalls of the 'Mag, namely a) mech and 2) efficiency. 1 is being worked on, 2 you really can't do much about. As for the Omen, yes, I have shot a nicely set up one, and no, I was not impressed. However much it is [350-4, no?] is better spent on a pneumatic marker, not sear tripped with a feeding trick.