High-speed Mechanical Triggers vs. Electro.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

If properly setted, a cocker could pinch ball as a mag do. You just have to reduce your cycling pressure. To do so you need an heavier hammer and a lighter back spring. I have seen mech cocker pinching balls and not even chopping so a pneumatic trigger wouldn't be a problem for them.

The only problem with setting the lpr low is the ram will not cycle as fast: It will lead to slower speeds, something we dont want.

[Chronobreak]

make a crossbread frame seems a bit neceeasy but i gues u could use one small battery and if it was small simple and cost effective that would be good. also im not too good with echanics but couldnt there be some sort of max rof that could be adj to taht of the hopper?

:hugs lvlX

[teufelhunden]

^^Making a crossbread frame elminates the reason to have a pneu-assist trigger, unless there is no viable electronic option.

All this could be avoided if people just bought decent loaders and didn't stick VL Quantums on Impulses and expect no problems.

[PBX Ronin 23]

If properly setted, a cocker could pinch ball as a mag do. You just have to reduce your cycling pressure. To do so you need an heavier hammer and a lighter back spring. I have seen mech cocker pinching balls and not even chopping so a pneumatic trigger wouldn't be a problem for them.

Your initial statement is correct as far as reducing your cocking pressure lower. But you've made it oxymoronic by stating the use of a heavier hammer. A heavy hammer actually necesitates the increase of the cocking pressure because the weight of your moving mass has been increased. In a cocker, it's all about spring balancing not the weight of hammer.....my two cents.

[PBX Ronin 23]

^^Making a crossbread frame elminates the reason to have a pneu-assist trigger, unless there is no viable electronic option.

All this could be avoided if people just bought decent loaders and didn't stick VL Quantums on Impulses and expect no problems.

[Rift]

MMMM,

What makes you think a mechanical trigger system can't have an eye?

im kidna thinkin the same thing could you not simply make a switch that is activated by the touch of a ball thus letting the triger fire, if no souch activation acourse the gun wont fire im sure it woudl be more complcated then i make it sound but to an extent would it not work?

[Chojin Man]

with a good hopper and level 10 you shouldn't need eyes for a mech trigger. 99% of players wouldn't be able to leagaly outshoot a halo w/ vboard.

[Chronobreak]

my comment was geared toward the cocker problem it seems ronin said mags done ahve this porb due to the lvlX so we can have the ALL mech version

[68magOwner]

one of the arguments the people who like the fast mech guns is that they are "more reliable" i beg to differ, with the lvl10 and ULT, the mag already became to complicates for some, but now shoving all this extra stuff in the grip frame is going to make it much more complicated than a board in the frame (and dont even get started with how bad efficency will be)

[Chronobreak]

one of the arguments the people who like the fast mech guns is that they are "more reliable" i beg to differ, with the lvl10 and ULT, the mag already became to complicates for some, but now shoving all this extra stuff in the grip frame is going to make it much more complicated than a board in the frame (and dont even get started with how bad efficency will be)

dont quote me but i thoguht efficency was only in the realm of a few shots per 1k psi

[Rift]

yes efficency with the hair was said to be around 3-4 shots less off a 68/4500

[Lurker27]

Electro is better.

[warbeak2099]

I was thinking of a way to ace a mech gun. Here's how my idea would work:

You need a small board (predator or morlock), eyes, and a sear tripper type solenoid (single style I guess). The solenoid goes behind the trigger. The eyes connect to where the micro switch would be on the board and the solenoid would be connected to the usual place. When the eyes sense there is no ball in the breech, they break the circuit causing the solenoid to open and push the trigger forward preventing the shooter from pulling it back. When a ball is in the breech, the solenoid is not activated. Now I don't know how to make the absence of the ball break the circuit and essentially tell the board to "fire", but it's just my idea.

You still get a mech gun but with an electronically controlled ace system. Of course it would cost around $300 but hey it's just an idea. And yes there would be the problm of setting the dwell just right but again, it's just a little thought I had.

Pete

[RTDynaflow]

^^^^
Why would anyone want an electro assisted gun that has a pnuea trigger??? Kind of like sticking a blower on a car to overcome its turbo lag I mean, besides for the kicks...

I would asume the whole key to keeping the cocker from becoming the new blender, get the operating psi down very very low. Look at that gun by gforce, or something, all mechanical, bolt operates on less then 10psi. No chopping. It was cycled to over 20bps w/ paint.... I *think*

[HateMachine]

All i have to say is

when the Hair trigger comes out, any electro trigger will look like work to pull. Ohh yea even precious Angels....