Impulse and Angel Owners Need Your Help

[x86assembly]

my angel has 77k shots on it, I would say about half was actual paint, and honestly I've never broken a ball down the barrel (cp set - matching paint size), but I have outshot the revy and chopped. If you have your angel properly setup, they will run flawlessly
the freeflow era mod was designed to reduce chops, much like the matrix's trinity mod. the stock angels bolt/hammer moves at 85-95psi, the ERA mod drops it by 20psi
also with the angel, you can adjust the dwell(valve-open-time) to compensate for thin/brittle paint.

[Toxic Dave]

I used to shoot both LCD's and LED Angels with Hellfire or Imperial through them and had almost no trouble at all, I don't think I've ever chopped a ball with an electro marker if everything was working(ball detents usually) If you have decent paint and a barrel roughly the same size as the ball you shouldn't have too much trouble with barrel breaks.

dave/gz

[i-luv-my-rt]

BOTH.....................

I've used both extensively and neither break paint. If you keep up the gun then they wont break paint. BUt that isnt what your asking.

I know the impulse is easier on paint. Running it at about 160 psi makes it this way. I've noticed that with brittle paint an angel's accuracy will go down while impulses will stay very good. Barrel has alot to do with it but not all. I would choose the impulse b/c of the very low operating pressure. Please tell me if my statements are wrong.

[JohnnyRotten]

15 cases of paint and no breaks on my Impy. The one time I remember playing with alot of guys, about 8 had Angels and about 10 had Imps (maybe 5 had the vision eye) there seemed to be about 15 breaks on the Angels and no breaks with the Imps, The store owner even switched his Angel for his Imp. Imps seem to be easier on paint.

[Tom Sparkman]

I have a 98 LED and my 2 friends have 2K LCDs and we use Hellfire (very fragile). They don't break paint down the barrel but they do chop, especially in FA or if the Revo batteries die (I've got a bad habit of not noticing that little red light...). You didn't ask, but 2 other guys that play with us can't use Hellfire (one has an Otto, the other an RT) - they prefer to stick with Marbs (my mags fav too).

Tom

[liigod]

well you gotta take into acount the difference between the angel internals. But i really dislike angels anway. But to be totally honest the impulse breaks less in the barrel with ultra brittle paint.

[Nitroduck]

There's one thing everyone needs to remember...............Stock , the angel comes with a smaller bore barrel , while the impulse comes with medium. Hence the impulse will usually break less paint down the barrel due to a person using medium bore paint........

[Chris]

I had 2 eclipse LED's, never had a barrel break in either, and only time I chopped was when I tried to shoot a hopper in Full Auto...made a purdy mess. I put about 5 cases or so through them.

-Chris

[rgertner1]

I have had 3 Angels in the past 2 years. A 2000 Dark Angel, a 2001 C&C Bonebrake, and a 2002 Stock Black. The only time I ever had a problem with breaking was when the gun wasn't setup properly.

I have broken less than 100 balls in 2 years and about 50 cases of paint. The Angel when setup properly, is a perfect marker.

[liigod]

REMEMBER GUYS, hes talking super fragile paint. WHich smart parts designs their guns for. Angels tend to blend the paint into a nice dripping out of the barrel effect.

[Dragoon]

I have owned an Angel in the past (a 2000 dark). But unless you have owned and used both for a good amount of time, how is it possible to really know which breaks more. It's hard to be knowledgeable and impartial on this vote.

Douglas

[Toxic Dave]

liigod;

Well since I used pretty much nothing but hellfire and Imperial both super fragile paint through nothing but angels in the past two years, as did a majority of my team, all without very much chopping your theory that angels "blend it into a nice dripping out the barrel effect" is incorrect. In fact Ground Zero won 2 major series championships using that exact combo.....it must not be too bad.

dave/ toxic/ gzs

[mac2k4]

i can't beleive this thread, good god, breaking paint has almost all to do w/ the paint to barrell match.
i have angels, impulse and shocker, lowpressure cocckers, stock cockers and no, the lowpressure doesn't make it break less, or shoot farther, or anything.
i've shot paint that was really thin(hellfire, ultra evil) through angels shockers, impulses, and even black dragons and it all shoots the same, but barrell and paint matching will effect alot, like trying to shoot medium paint out of a small bore barrell( you'll get breaks)

i'm dave, if angels are that bad, well i guess theres a lot of stupid people'eh? no gun is "better" than another its all preference.

[marc]

when i had my impulse, the stock barrel was to big of a bore and the paint would fall right down it. Then i got a freak. I only had the impulse with the freak for like 1 month, and i didnt notice any ball breaks

[Richter]

we noticed in chicago nppl that using thin shelled pmi evil advantage that our angels did not like the paint. We broke alot down the barrel. Our frontman with an impulse did not break a ball down the barrel.
i have also notice during pactice days when angels seem to be breaking paint but his impulse does not break paint down the barrel. I especial notice it this last december('01) when we went out to Grand Island NE to play with Poorman and some guys from warped. They were shooting thin shelled JT paint when it was a little cool outside. I notice a they had a few breaks down the barrel, Some people were sqeegeeing after a game. (all shooting angels) Our guy with the impulse though,... not a break.