Hot Off the MILL! Custom Extreme!!

[paintballrulzs]

I don't like it. The patterns r not very great...I would have a contest here on ao. Have someone create a "doable" xtreme

[OhMyAMoose]

I think it looks ok but I really dont like it.... Now I think that you should mill the ADG logo onto the gun (the lions and all that jive) but that might be hard.

[FooTemps]

mt neck just went limp.... that is an amazing job and my neck is getting a cramp because it can only lean over to one side...

[zads27]

Hm.. well I guess it was only a first attempt...
I really dislike that kind of milling.. most sucessful milling designs are all more fluid looking, something that matches contours and flows from one part to the next.. look at the SFL, ripper cocker bodies, among others...

I'm with shartley on this, the milling was done just to mill it. The lines and such break up the overall look of the marker..
The battery pack looks half tolerable, because they matched the milling to the shape, somewhat.. but honestly, I wouldn't pay extra for that milling to be done on my own battery pack.

[ThePatriot]

Nice gun, a very good demonstration of the milling capabilities for a mag....and in the future i hope to see as many different brands of E-Mags as there are cockers.

[Shaft]

It's ugly. Get rid of it. I offer my custom milled aluminum gun disposal service. Send it to Rick Brand....

[Manuel_FZR]

[deweasel697]

I like what you did with the finger grooves and the trigger frame, but the milling design is ugly. I wouldn't buy it.

[DYE-BaLLeR]

what are u talking about?!!! that gun is peeerrrrrddddyyyyyyyy

[tranman]

Personally i think all the little milled lines looks cheezy, its like using a multi thousand dollar machine to do engraving, it needs more bold lines and curves not just little lines carved into it. Look at free-flow cockers and others and the angels out there, none of them have little lines carved into them.

[FooTemps]

I like the lines but if they made the lines more bold and carved so it gives a better look.

[Cha0tic]

i do not like it that much. for a first try, not too bad. but there is alot of room for improvement.

when i look for a nicely milled gun, it should have the excess weight off of it. i think there is a lot that can still be shaved off. i think it would look better anodized, but the lines just aren't in my taste. i like a more simple look with thicker carvings. the thin lines are hard to clean.

[Major Ho]

Enh...Not really liking it.
How bout geometrical chunks taken out of it instead of lil lines carved here and there?
More of a smoothed out look.

Just constructive critism, not being a lil smart mouth punk or anything...

[Bluntman]

Yeah I agree with the pretty much everyone else here, if you're gonna mill it do more then etching get some nice more 3d designs going on.

[manike]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the responses. We've been reading them with great interest. One thing I can say for sure is that the pictures do not do the milling justice.

Let me talk you all through what we have done and the features we have included and then you can tell us what features you like or do not like.

The point of a coloured and carved is to do something that stands out. This one was designed to hint at the new ACE being available and was designed on an 'Aztec Evil Eye' them. The pattern is designed to attract your attention, which I think it has, so that you may have overlooked other details and all the thought that has gone into this. The pattern is just one very small part of this design so please be open minded enough to look past that if you do not care for the actual pattern itself. (Everyone here who can see it in the flesh loves it... go figure :) )

The Pattern you see on the sides is designed around the sear hole on one side and the X treme logo on the other to look Aztec and like the old style Evil eye logo's. There was definitely a theme to this look. Some will like it some won't. We were trying very hard NOT to copy anything else on any other gun. It's too easy to copy some-one elses ideas and much harder to be original. There are some I definitely don't expect to like it. The way the pattern lines flow is designed to complement the upward shape at the back of the gun. The hose hole slot has been cut from both sides and leads the shape of the pattern and you can see it 'glides up at the top unlike the sraight hole slot on the standard version.

There is not soo much milling done at the top of the body dome as it is very thin walled here and the last thing you want is to break through or have very soft areas. (unlike some guns!)

It's hard to see from the pictures but the side of the gun is waisted down so that the bottom of it is just the width of the grip frame. The idea of this body was to make it as light as possible but still keep aluminium covering the valve. We didn't want to expose the valve like the SFL as again we wanted to be different. We have removed a huge amount of material and weight but still kept as much ally over the valve visually so that you can have it annodised :) The body is about 9mm thinner on each side of the gun, and to remove all this excess material is why you have the sear thread having to stick up and which is what lead to that 'Aztec' Pattern. We have done a completely smooth version also without the pattern. It's more simplistic and has a 'feather' type look about it. Would you guys prefer to see something like that?

The body is sloped down at the top to lead more gently into the barrel. It's very difficult to do this because of the shape of the original extrusion and does look better in the flesh. Ok That's most of it on the body that I can remember...

The front battery pack... Well have you noticed how very few people have attempted to mill it? bceause it isn't actually that thick walled. The logo in the middle which leads to the pattern is the 'x in a circle' emblem for the Extreme. We could very easily do AGD or what I was going to do for all of us AO'ers is make a battery pack with the AO logo on! (this will probably be available for your standard E-mags if you want but bug John and Jackie for that not me :) ) The front of the battery pack has slight groove indents for your fingers (in direct response to someones's comments on this forum).

The grip frame has finger grooves at the front. It has three so that you can use the top two and have two fingers on the trigger, or you can use three on the frame to hold the gun and one on the bottom of the trigger to fire it. In effect giving you the option to shoot like a single trigger gun, this was again in direct response to Panzerr's wishes about how he wants to fire his gun. With the grip frame you can also see the frame is milled behind the lower part of the double trigger. This is again so you have another option of how to hold the gun and fire it. You can even put your finger behind the trigger to block it if you want (A friend of mine does that) or you can just rest your finger there so it is again like a single trigger frame. The back of the trigger frame is taken even thinnner than the ULE frames (as on the SFL) to make it smaller and more comfortable to hold. The button recesses have also been cut back in deeper. (I tried to fit LCD sticky grips on like all the fantasy E-mags but just couldn't quite do it )

Please go through all of the features above and make note of which ideas you like and which you do not. Constructive criticism is appreciated but please try and give reasons and say what you would like to see not just that you don't like it. As you can see from the features I listed, a lot of the design thought has originiated from ideas of people on here. I'm always open to new ideas and want you want to see :)

I am trying to implement some ideas from the Fantasy Mag competition (one reason I wanted to allow hand drawings...) I'm already trying to find an STL or surface file of a Lion to get a Body machined like that. if anyone can find one on the net I'd appreciate it :)

I've just finished making a prototype blade trigger. It is a bit fat though but feels great :) Not sure if it's a serious idea though because it doesn't look quite as cool as I wanted it too... Pics later maybe. It's 2.00am and I need some sleep!

manike