Hot Off the MILL! Custom Extreme!!

[Manuel_FZR]

[Bad Dave]

I think the milling would look better once annodised but also agree there is too much there, too complicated.

What impresses me is the sheer rate that this is being worked upon, look at how much work AGD US and Europe have done in the past year, I think they all deserve a pat on the back for that.

I think AGD logos are a good idea for the first run at least so people don't mistake them for angels. lol.

[John Sosta, AGD Europe]

Originally posted by headcase
I really do like the idea of the pattern lines, just no how they look in the picture. If you look at the 2nd pic, the milling on the battery pack looks very clean with good sharp lines, but look at the body and the lines just don't look clean, on the battery pack it looks like a ruler was used, and on the body it was done freehand. I know it wasn't done by hand, and the illusion is caused by the body shape not being flat, but still it is the way it looks to me.

But I do like the look, it is very unique, and I think that is what the marker needs. I really want to see one in person, as well as a anno'd one. It is different than anything else out there, but it supposed to be. If I understand this is going to be offered along with the normal Extreme body, like the C+C Angels are. So if doesn't have to please everyone, if you don't like it, buy a normal Extreme and have it milled to YOUR liking. Isn't that a big part of the Aluminum body in the first place, more customization options?

I say do the first run of, say 250 or so, in this style....then do a run of the streamlined "feather" version of it, and by the those 500 markers are sold, I'm sure you will have had plenty of time to think up a new idea.

That was a really well thought out post. Thankyou. As you point out the lines on the body are harder because thay are mapping over a 3D surface. The shape of the body lines are actually dictated by where we have removed material, because we cut in as far as possible in some areas and modified the rear hose slot you get that pattern which kind of raises up at the back.

manike

[John Sosta, AGD Europe]

Originally posted by headcase
I forgot to ask, what is milled into the upper part of the trigger guard....It looks like "SS001" is it just a way to keep track of which version of the milling this is?

LOL :) It is SS001, I designed the gripframe modifications for my own ultimate custome machined E-mag which I am working on. AGDE liked the mods so much they want to run them on their C&C guns though so we used that grip frame when we started putting prototypes together.

SS stands for Simon Stevens (or maybe Super Series... )

manike (Simon and Not John even though I have been posting under his ID).

[shartley]

Note: If this looks like work others have done, this was totally unintentional. I did not look at any other markers or fantasy designs while working on this.)

[Panzerr]

The frame being milled behind the lower part of the double trigger is a very nice feature! The general "cut" looks good to me, but I do agree that the Aztec pattern is a bit too busy.

[John Sosta, AGD Europe]

Hi Wilke,

Originally posted by Gecko
1) Knowing Manike's fetish for 5 axis milling guessing a big HOSS or similar CNC mill

Not quite :) If we were using a 5 axis mill things would look very different... This is all done with just 3 axis.

It's actually a small but very effective MiniMill from Haas (a USA company). It will fit Extreme bodies on but not full size vehicle which is what I am more used to :)

Originally posted by Gecko
1)2)Normal laptop running i'm guessing win 2K

Yep it's my lap top with win2k and a 850Mhz processor. Still fast with our software but you should see the 2GHz machines run our stuff :)

Originally posted by Gecko
13)That was done with Tebis. Manike works for them, head rep in England i think. Very high end cad/cam suite used mostly in europe

Yes indeed :) I'm actually likely to be in the USA with it this year as we bring it to the good people in D&C at Dearborne.

Originally posted by Gecko
4) It wouldn't be cost effective to run custom desighn, your better off going to a local machine shop to do personal milling.
Gecko

It wouldn't be cost effective but I could do it. It would be damned expensive. If you need to ask how much you can't afford it :)

Good job I'm doing this for the love of paintball :)

The next prototype design should be off the mill some time this evening

manike

[John Sosta, AGD Europe]

Originally posted by deded
do you think you could do something like this?


The agd logo might be tough.. but maybe you could just load it into the milling program or something.... that would be sweet. The little waves on the side aren't very cool, I was going for something that resembled an 'X'... but they look more like little spikes.

deded we could do that very easily. But it's not much different to stock is it? We can do the logo if AGD can find a .dwg file of it (I actually need it as .dxf, or iges, or catia or UG or....)

manike

[Dave]

Originally posted by deded
do you think you could do something like this?


The agd logo might be tough.. but maybe you could just load it into the milling program or something.... that would be sweet. The little waves on the side aren't very cool, I was going for something that resembled an 'X'... but they look more like little spikes.

I think this would be an Excellent idea-the smaller battery pack, the grooves in the battery pack, IF, you were also able to put a small indend or mill some type of groove at the end of the trigger guard for your thumb to hook inside the trigger guard when holding the battery pack, with your thumb resting right in the groove.

If anything I say it's hard to say if it looks good without the finished product, because just the basic aluminum mill looks 'rough', but through the anodizing, it may look a lot better. I think an Aztec theme would be cool, but definitely more 3D, and not so random with putting lines-like try to have a solid pattern your going for. But its a great start, I don't think anyone has done the aztec theme before...

When I picture the X-treme Emag, I picture the absolute Rolls Royce or Ferrari of paintball markers. Its the most advanced, most capable, best engineered, most durable, and hopefully, most classy. It's design has to reveal this. The 'most' of anything endures as a legend. I would like to see the X-treme become this. Your going to have make regular people( not mag connoisseurs, :) ) look at this marker and say "Forget Angels, forget Cockers, this is IT right here." As for design, I cannot recommend anything but to keep it stylish, graceful, and classy with a touch of finesse.

-Dave

[Vegeta]

Well... What would be really good, if you could make thsoe a bit deeper notches... then fill them with a clear/traslucent dark red/blue resin fill that would bond the the metal....

[Manuel_FZR]

[Sledgehammer]

Shartley, that looks awesome!!! I want one of these!!!

[paintballer187]

nice, it is a pretty cool design but to fancy for my tastes.

[shartley]

Sledgehammer

[udtseal]

Shartley should work for AGD designing custom milling! THAT ROCKS!