When did AGD devleop the R/T

[xjnation]

before or after tippmann? someone ahve a date?

[magman007]

way before, the rt hit the market in about 95-96

[nastymag]

Yeah back in 96 ...it was still the thing when i started balling is late 98.

RT tippman is just code for full auto

[Kevmaster]

yeah, Tippy RT is cheating RT...its not REAL RT

[Muzikman]

The Automag RT was released in 96. I know they had the design before then, but do to the fact that it would not run on CO2 they didn't release it.

[Muzikman]

ever heard of a z grip

?? What does the Z-Grip have to do with the RT?

[Chronobreak]

well for one it is on my nephews but i was just wondering

cyb second time i saw you ask that....

z-grip is the precursor to the ne y-grip

the z-grips were discontinued due to lack of itnerest. with renewed interest agd remade it with a slightly less angle

z-grips are getting VERY rare

the first rt(classic) came out in 96 they had the desighn before that....think HIGh flow classic valve

[Evil1]

I remember reading somewhere that the actual RT valve was developed long before it was released to the public.

[AGD]

Like most things we have inovated over the years, our thinking was way ahead of the players acceptance level. The RT valve was prototyped and shooting in the field in 1991. The SOB's and Jacksonville Warriors shot these valves exclusively for years since they were using HPA before everyone else. There are still some floating around and can be identified because they are not lasered and have a shiny regulator on the back.

It wasnt until the wide spread acceptance of HPA that we even bothered to bring it to market. The same thing is true for the next generation warp feed, not enough interest to bring it to the next level so it isnt happening.

AGD

[Chronobreak]

It wasnt until the wide spread acceptance of HPA that we even bothered to bring it to market. The same thing is true for the next generation warp feed, not enough interest to bring it to the next level so it isnt happening.

AGD

the backpack?

LOL please dont

[CaliMagFan]

i think Tom's talking about the cocker shroud-like hopper with the treads that force feed the marker.. If i remember correctly there was a thread about the patent sometime in the last 2 years.... I could be all wrong, but like Tom said, the market is not ready to lay down their blimps for the original warp feed, much less the Gen2 version.

I'm still trying to win the lottery so i can just fund the hell out of AGD and Tom can really put his magic elves to work without ever having to watch the bottom line...Elves have gotten horribly pricey since the "dot com" bust out here in california..

-kyro

[warbeak2099]

yeah, Tippy RT is cheating RT...its not REAL RT

Lol, it's the same exact principle. It uses a rod under air pressure to reset the trigger rapidly after every shot. Hhhmmm, sounds very familiar... oh yeah, becuase it's almost exactly the same. The only difference is the AGD version is integral in that it's basically the internal workings of the gun, and the Tippmann version is an extra add-on peice that works off the valve. Other than that, they work on exactly the same principle, take air pressure and use it to reset the trigger really fast between shots.

It's not full auto!

I like the Tippmann RT. A friend let me try his and it was really easy to sweetspot. When I get an adjustable tank I'll have to see which is better, my X-valve or his Tippmann RT! Hahaha...

[Dayspring]

Actually, the AGD RT was not designed for the RT effect. They designed it for a rapid recharge. The RT kick was a side effect of how they routed the air in the valve.

Tippmann did nothing to help the recharge of the gun. They did it to speed up the gun. And it usually IS rull auto because it's adjustable outside of the gun w/o tools. Which is why the Tippmann RT is illegal in many places.

[TheTramp]

It's not full auto!

A friend let me try his and it was really easy to sweetspot.

Do you see how these two statments don't match up.

That "Sweetspot" is giving you full auto or at the very least bursts.

[SummaryJudgement]

Yeah, I remember the Jacksonville Warriors tearing me a new one at the field I worked at back in 97. They brought three RTs to the field. We were all familiar with mags of course, but we were all "What the hell is that thing?!" Oh, and this was when you could easily get 20-30 fps more out of the gun if you knew how. I was a quick guy back in the day, and that aggrevated the crap out of them one day, so three of them cornered me and lit up probably shooting around 330. They weren't cool guys (at least those three), but it was (and still is) a real cool gun.