When did AGD devleop the R/T

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  • Muzikman
    Everything AGD
    • Dec 2000
    • 6229

    #31
    Originally posted by hitech
    You know, I REALLY wasn't kidding. I can't even play without a warp anymore. I'm not sure I know how. I know it improves my ability on the field. I can handle myself against "tournament" players even though I only play a few times a year. I was always the last one alive (and shooting back). I even outlasted Darryl formally of Bob Long's Ironmen.

    So Tom, do you still have that rumored backpack warp? I would have a grand ole time showing it off at the scenario game at Fort Ord.
    Neither was I.

    As for the backpack. I know it can be done and it is said to work. I saw one at IAO in 2001 I think it was. The guy who made it lost an arm so this was his way of carrying enough paint to finish a game. It was built on an old green canvas (army) backpack with a warp mounted to the bottom.

    Back years ago, '96 or so, someone had a pressurized backpack loader at IAO. They were demoing it in the speedball field by holding the gun upside down and shooting. The problem with it was it only held a few hundred balls and was a pain to reload.

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    • Cilio - Knightmare Tango
      Registered User
      • Jul 2003
      • 67

      #32
      Tom,

      Would the front of that integrated Warp have been able to take someone coming down on it rather hard? I've put a few nice marks in the bottom of my foregrip.
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      • hitech
        Not a shedder of vortices
        • Nov 2001
        • 4775

        #33
        Originally posted by Muzikman
        Neither was I.
        Sorry, I mistook the .

        I've thought of making one myself, but how to get it to feed when horizontal is the problem. I probably could figure something out, but not without a lot of work. Using a backpack with a warp was the first idea I had when I got a warp. I was convinced I was going to do it until I actually got the warp. I just don't have the fabrication tools or time necessary. I'd really like one...



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        • Chronobreak
          Rec Poster
          • Mar 2003
          • 5055

          #34
          not to get too off subject but this is what i was picturing


          i was thinking soemthing like the current warp + a halo like setup at the bottom...the halo could throw the balls to the warp then the warp could supercharge then paint(faster and stringer) to throught he tube.

          the only thing i see as a problem would be falling on the hose or soemthing.

          i might get one of those backpack watergun things and make myself a project

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          • slade
            Carpe Noctem
            • Apr 2004
            • 3442

            #35
            Originally posted by warbeak2099
            You're still pulling the trigger back every shot.
            no, you arent. thats the point. with a tuned rt, you dont pull the trigger each shot, you just have to apply constant force and the marker moves the trigger (and your finger with it).
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            • warbeak2099
              That is my foot!
              • Jan 2004
              • 4447

              #36
              Ok, ok but it's still technically not f/a just like an AGD RT. 1 shot per cycle. 'm sorry I brought it up. I'm just saying they do the same thing or rather they have the same effect... bounce.
              My Feedback

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              • Terminal Frost
                Registered User
                • Dec 2004
                • 4

                #37
                Originally posted by Muzikman
                Neither was I.

                As for the backpack. I know it can be done and it is said to work. I saw one at IAO in 2001 I think it was. The guy who made it lost an arm so this was his way of carrying enough paint to finish a game. It was built on an old green canvas (army) backpack with a warp mounted to the bottom.

                Back years ago, '96 or so, someone had a pressurized backpack loader at IAO. They were demoing it in the speedball field by holding the gun upside down and shooting. The problem with it was it only held a few hundred balls and was a pain to reload.
                can i see some pics of this backpack???

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                • Muzikman
                  Everything AGD
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 6229

                  #38
                  I don't know if anyone got a pic of the warp/backpack loader or not.

                  The pressurized backpack loader from the late 90's is on Warpig some place.

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                  • Beemer
                    I could tell you but then.

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 3250

                    #39
                    Ask Richard

                    Read this thread

                    More pics here, pg 2 half way down http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...4&page=2&pp=40


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                    • matt-o
                      eater of babies
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 910

                      #40
                      Originally posted by TheTramp
                      I guess your finger does get nudged a bit. I've shot three (2 on A-5s and 1 on a M98) and they all allowed me to pull my figer back to a set point and hold it there while the gun kept firing. If you don't want to call that full auto/burst then that's fine with me but I certenly wasn't pulling the trigger each shot.
                      the correct term is super-semiauto for both, this also includes guns with a turbo mode like the old shockers
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                      • Enemy
                        aKa PROZAC
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1245

                        #41
                        this is all called bounce...bounce oh and the shockers werent super semi they were effectivly ramped where the user hit certian bps and board went to db1.. turbo is real ramping where user hits x bps and gun shots x bps + xbps often 2.5 and up! oh and i think i might like the older warps there is an advantage of having the hopper on one side of the gun thats the side that stays in!!!!!! but thanks for the pics tom
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                        • 68magOwner
                          Registered User
                          • May 2003
                          • 3475

                          #42
                          Originally posted by AGD
                          Heck I'll even show you where we were going with the warp. In this version the warp is mounted central to the gun and integrated around the tank and regulator. From the outside, the tank and hopper look like one piece with the fill ports on either side between the front and rear grip. What is shown here is a photochop cutaway view. The balls feed up through the front grip and into the side of the gun.

                          No offset weight, no hose sticking out, nothing on top of the gun, no addtional bulk, no addtional weight, structurally integrated into the gun so you can superman in and not break it off. Ashame it will never happen.


                          AGD

                          hmm, while your at it, why not make the balls feed from the foregrip directly into the breech rather than having the hose, make the foregrip an upside down feedneck of sorts. (would require relocation of course) anyway, this is something i would be interested in, but, woud HAVE to try before i bought one, would need to see how it balanced, how easy it was to reload, any inconvience of having it over a standard loader, if the good outweighed the bad, i would look into getting one (or look at the price tag ) any idea if the new pres will look into going anywhaere with this idea?

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                          • Glickman
                            *Insert Witty Phrase*
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 2673

                            #43
                            Originally posted by AGD
                            Heck I'll even show you where we were going with the warp. In this version the warp is mounted central to the gun and integrated around the tank and regulator. From the outside, the tank and hopper look like one piece with the fill ports on either side between the front and rear grip. What is shown here is a photochop cutaway view. The balls feed up through the front grip and into the side of the gun.

                            No offset weight, no hose sticking out, nothing on top of the gun, no addtional bulk, no addtional weight, structurally integrated into the gun so you can superman in and not break it off. Ashame it will never happen.


                            AGD

                            looks like a great idea, but what about making it feed up, like that gun with a trap door i cant recall the name of. side feeding guns, ie. Omen, i dont think are very reliable, nor popular

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