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  • yakitori

    #31
    dayspring is right, because he plays in tourneys. And I totally agree w/ what he says. I know for a fact that it is relatively easy to come out at 5bps. When about 14 or so BPS is hitting your bunker, then you are a bit more reluctant to come out. I will still come out at 14 bps though. If you pay attention to what side of the bunker the person is shooting on, then you can come out of the bunker somewhere other than the side they are shooting at.

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    • C_22
      AO Mex?
      • Sep 2003
      • 216

      #32
      Volume over accuracy. It may "only take one" (I don't follow this rule much as some people are... "faulty" in fact, it does not take "just one" most fo the time) but volume allows plays outside the bunker, keep the other guy in, more chances to hits a dude if he/she is running and well, it's just more powerfull IMHO gameplay.
      The reason I shoot trix familiy guns is beacuse at high volumes, their accuracy is still pretty damn good.

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      • NIghtStalker001
        Registered User
        • Dec 2002
        • 80

        #33
        I would be real curious to see what whoud happen if they had a tournament that capped at 5 bps and see how these guys do.In sales its a numbers game and conversion is key, to see how good you are.I read a post here that mid players or back players shoot 1000-2000 rounds a game and may hit a few guys but the conversion sucks.2000 rounds and lets say 2 kills thats like a tenth of a percent kills to paint being sprayed ratio.
        In tournament world I relize its nessasry to do the job at hand but how good would they play if that option of spraying paint was not afforded.How good would you be?Or is laying paint all you got?

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        • Vanced
          I'm Old Skool, Not My Game
          • Sep 2002
          • 489

          #34
          Originally posted by NIghtStalker001
          I would be real curious to see what whoud happen if they had a tournament that capped at 5 bps and see how these guys do.In sales its a numbers game and conversion is key, to see how good you are.I read a post here that mid players or back players shoot 1000-2000 rounds a game and may hit a few guys but the conversion sucks.2000 rounds and lets say 2 kills thats like a tenth of a percent kills to paint being sprayed ratio.
          In tournament world I relize its nessasry to do the job at hand but how good would they play if that option of spraying paint was not afforded.How good would you be?Or is laying paint all you got?
          It does exist...They are called "Stock-Class" or "Pump" Tourny's ... and they are not equally popular...so unfortunatlly either a majority of people don't want to know or more likely don't care...

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          • NIghtStalker001
            Registered User
            • Dec 2002
            • 80

            #35
            Good point.

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            • MADS~DW~
              Registered User
              • Aug 2004
              • 22

              #36

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              • Bubonic Plauge
                Magasaurus Rex
                • Feb 2003
                • 96

                #37
                Its also like gas and cars....they are married you know.

                The more paint you shoot, the more $ you spend

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                • trains are bad
                  Registered User
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1751

                  #38
                  it's about $50-$70
                  TRB's feedback

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                  • Kaiser Bob
                    Paintball Degenerate
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 1157

                    #39
                    if you are in the tournament world, but not quite at the free paint level you'd probably expect to pay about 30ish for midrange stuff like Blaze 40ish for inferno and RPS paint, 50ish for upper tier paint

                    PS- The Pan Am was a paint limited event, last i heard, that is if that's still going.
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                    • Vanced
                      I'm Old Skool, Not My Game
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 489

                      #40
                      Originally posted by NIghtStalker001
                      Good point.
                      Thanks:

                      But here is a bit of a suggestion that I have sugested here and played before... that gives a nice balance of Accuracy vs. Volume.

                      If you want to level a playing field real quick, and see how good people really are. But you and I both know it is about impossible to get people to put down their thousand+ dollar guns and play with something less... or god forbid play pump...

                      Challege who ever your are playing to play a game without any battery powered hoppers. A gravity only game is a very quick, cheap, and easy way that makes it fun and as close to fair as it can be for the latest noob with his Walmart spyder clone and enough of a change for the latest Dye, Timmy, whatever... and typically any field will have plenty of old VL 200's or what ever laying around to loan out... and will cap you around the range you are looking for.

                      Note: a Level 10 is a VERY nice advantage is this type of game...

                      Hell ... I always said the battery was the death of paintball. At least the type of paintball I grew up playing.

                      Also: to answer the prior question... yeah about $40 for mid grade $50 for high test...

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                      • Lohman446
                        Useful posts: 7
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9315

                        #41
                        But, be careful you dont mistake shooting a lot of paint to not being accurate or being able to shoot slowly well. My teams style is odd - as a front player on the tape line its my job to provide secondary laning to that tape on my way to the first bunker.. I normally drop a pod on the way there for this purpose to keep my tape clear and the bunkers that defend it. I will often then drop another pod on my next move... covering my own move - and these are both at a good rate of fire (14BPS via Shocker rebound mode where allowed). This is normally in the first thirty seconds of the game. After that it is normal for me to shoot less than 30 balls the rest of the game - and I score more eliminations when Im positioned and shooting slow.
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                        • NIghtStalker001
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 80

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Lohman446
                          After that it is normal for me to shoot less than 30 balls the rest of the game - and I score more eliminations when Im positioned and shooting slow.
                          Lohman this is what I'm talking about.You use it when you need to but if the position is right or your playing like you should at a certain point 25 a second is not nessasary.

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                          • Tyger
                            video /k radio star
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 1210

                            #43
                            I'm always more impressed when someone can do with one ball what a novice tries to do with 500.

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                            • Dayspring
                              aka- The Day Wang

                              • May 2001
                              • 9664

                              #44
                              I think you have this misconception that tourney players do nothing but shoot paint just to shoot. It's not true.

                              One reason this guy is only shooting another 25 balls the rest of the game is because he's gotten into a position where they are keeping him in with a sustained ROF.


                              Originally posted by NIghtStalker001
                              Lohman this is what I'm talking about.You use it when you need to but if the position is right or your playing like you should at a certain point 25 a second is not nessasary.

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                              • Vanced
                                I'm Old Skool, Not My Game
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 489

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Dayspring
                                I think you have this misconception that tourney players do nothing but shoot paint just to shoot. It's not true.

                                One reason this guy is only shooting another 25 balls the rest of the game is because he's gotten into a position where they are keeping him in with a sustained ROF.
                                Yep, IMHO, Speed/Tourny ball is not just shooting more often and faster. It is that you shoot more often and faster with the need and the intention for your shots ( and moves ) to have more of a purpose than to simply get eliminations...

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