Volume or accuracy ?

[XSSPL]

This is the same debate that's been raging since the inception of speedball. I played sponsored tourney woods ball, scenarios and some speedball tourneys in the mid 90's. I may be dating myself here, but when the mags burst onto the scene, they absolutely blew the doors off of the VM68's, Tippman's, Brass Eagle, F1 Illustrator...etc of the day.

Back then 7-10 bps was getting A LOT of COMPLAINTS and you would have to have been around for the early, early days of paintbal to truely understand why. To tell the truth, the spray and pray direction that the sport took, go me out of paintball for almost 6 years.

I play rec-only ball with players of all sorts and gun types and have no trouble getting my fair share of eliminations with my '97 model classic mag - a good barrel, good paint and a think on the fly tactical mindset can get you through.

Do I ever get tired of the same guys hurling 1/2 case of paint every game? - yes
Do I let them affect my game? - no

There's nothing better than makin a move on some speed demon wielder and giving them a 285 fps slap on the back of the head because they took their eye off of the field while reloading their 1500 dollar paint guzzler.

I say to each his own, but just because you can shoot faster does not make you a better player in my opinion.

[xXHavokXx]

There's nothing better than makin a move on some speed demon wielder and giving them a 285 fps slap on the back of the head because they took their eye off of the field while reloading their 1500 dollar paint guzzler.

I say to each his own, but just because you can shoot faster does not make you a better
player in my opinion.

I love how shooting someone with a nice gun is your motivation for playing. Like you should punish him or something.

[jewie27]

I love how shooting someone with a nice gun is your motivation for playing. Like you should punish him or something.

Kinda like using a Spyder or Pump gun to shoot out someone with a A4.

[xXHavokXx]

Kinda like using a Spyder or Pump gun to shoot out someone with a A4.

Exactly. I've always found it odd that when that circumstance happens the bragging is non-stop like they just slew a dragon or something. But if while on their perilous "david and goliath" like quest they get blasted it turns into " They were shooting hot because all their guns ramp the dwell up so they get to 400 fps, and their guns ramps so they were shooting 47 bps, and I was 3 ft away from them and they spun on me and shot me at least 111 times and then wiped, killed a baby on an altar to satan and had sex with my mom while my dad was tied up and gagged in a chair being forced to smoke cigarettes with no filters."

[XSSPL]

I love how shooting someone with a nice gun is your motivation for playing. Like you should punish him or something.

I think you may misunderstand what I really meant, which I can see how one could read that into it... but anyway...

I guess a better way to say it is NOT that I think someone with a "better gun" should be punished. Trust me, I have more than enough funds available to me to go buy a farkin DM4, 5, 10 whatever. I choose to continue playing with the same mag I used almost 10 years ago quite simply because it still gets the job done quite nicely.

In addition, in my particular area, I just don't see a whole lot of real talent in the ones I play with or against that tote around 1500 Bob Long's, etc... going through 2 cases a day.

Sure there are quite a few that are truely good at the speedball side of paintball play - good players period, but my real point was that I run into SO MANY underserved inflated egos because they have a "better gun" that mommy and daddy bought. Those are the ones that I take great pride in taking down a notch or two by OUT PLAYING them.

I'll even take it a step further and say that I feel even more rewarded when I am able to put out a high caliber player with a very fast marker.

does this make more sense or am I still some kind of jaded prick because I think that 20 bps in rec ball is rediculous??

[xXHavokXx]

That sounds better, just the way I read it just made it sound like all that stuff I hear on forums all the time where guys with less advanced(but still very good) guns make a point to shoot everyone with a battery in their gun as if it was a some sort of inside sport.

It makes sense to bring peoples egos back to planet earth when there parents bought them a timmy, angel or trix if they have no game, but sometimes they do.

sometimes at fields I see those guys who think any gun made after 98 is a cheater gun and anyone under 35 is too young to comprehend the sport and they make it their goal to claim trophies.


I dunno I think it's just un needed rivalry.

Hope this makes sense, just got back from the pub.

[gc82000]

Exactly. I've always found it odd that when that circumstance happens the bragging is non-stop like they just slew a dragon or something. But if while on their perilous "david and goliath" like quest they get blasted it turns into " They were shooting hot because all their guns ramp the dwell up so they get to 400 fps, and their guns ramps so they were shooting 47 bps, and I was 3 ft away from them and they spun on me and shot me at least 111 times and then wiped, killed a baby on an altar to satan and had sex with my mom while my dad was tied up and gagged in a chair being forced to smoke cigarettes with no filters."

There are kids like this at my rec fields. the little punks i still love em though. who else can I practice on.

When my team "practices" or plays rec we usually only use a hopper or maybe even less in a game. no big deal. Lately I have been practicing with 50 balls in a rec game. I own an A4 and play very well with it. In a tourney I can fire it up to 27 bps (no ramp necesary), and use 5-7 pods,but only when I play back. If you are a frontman and are pumping out 4+ pods in a game something is very wrong with your game, even if you play 10 man.

But I put more of an emphasis on movement and comunication more then on bps in my training. To me that is just more important.

[TOMBSTONE]

THE DAY WILL COME WHEN NO ONE WILL OWN THEIR MARKER AT A TOURNMENT
EACH TEAM WILL BE GIVEN A MARKER AND ALL MARKERS WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME
THEN WHEN GAME OVER YOU HAND THEM BACK IN THAT WILL STOP ALL THE PROBLEMS
------ *****GAME OVER -------- JUST A THOUGHT

[stoney76]

[QUOTE=Dayspring]You've probably only played in local tournaments. In the bigger ones, one ball means it's only one hit they have to wipe off.

That just sucks! I know it's true but when people wipe, how can they have any pride in what they've accomplished? Teammates need to squash that. NOT WELCOME...money or not. The coolest people to play with are the ones who yell out, "nice shot!" to the person that just tagged them...because it was. They won and for that second in time, they are better.....especially if you made a mistake and got punished for it. I would like to catch those guys with todays technology!!