an arguement for the open bolt

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  • chaos lichen
    Sanity is for the weak...
    • Nov 2004
    • 79

    #1

    an arguement for the open bolt

    For a long time open bolt markers have been getting blamed for everything (inacuracy, short range, male pattern baldness, etc) but a lot of good markers are open bolt so they can't be as bad as everyone makes them sound. They have one thing over closed bolts, consistency because in a closed bolt the ball has time to roll down the barrel if there isn't good paint to barrel match. This causes eratic velocity and thus poor accuracy. My 2 cents.
    Everyone is equal, just some people are more equal than others.
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    That was a bit like sandblasting a soup cracker.
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  • Lurker27
    Registered User
    • Jun 2004
    • 287

    #2
    Get out of Deep Blue immediately.

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    • RazorMonkey
      Registered User
      • Jul 2003
      • 289

      #3
      I agree... For one thing, there are these amazing things called detents... I don't know if you've heard of them or not... They're pretty new on the market

      Secondly, not many people bash open bolt operation. In fact, the VAST majority of markers are open bolt... Matrices? Open bolt. Timmy's? Open bolt. Angels? Open bolt. Imp's? Open bolt. Automags? Open bolt. People don't say that open bolt operation is bad, they just say that closed bolt has its advantages, many of which are myths... Open bolt also has its advantages over closed bolt. It is faster, it generally makes for less kick, etc.

      As for my rudeness down here earlier, I was tweaked because I kinda got ripped off by someone... Sorry
      Last edited by RazorMonkey; 12-20-2004, 02:59 PM.

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      • SlartyBartFast
        The Flying Scotsman
        • Jun 2002
        • 2940

        #4
        Originally posted by RazorMonkey
        Now leave Deep Blue until you have something intelligent to say.
        What's with the nastiness and Hate?

        Sure it might not be deep thought material and perhaps belong in paintball talk, but that's up to the Mods to decide.

        By post count, you're all noobs and in no position to claim airs of authority.

        Try being polite and friendly next time.

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        • Dayspring
          aka- The Day Wang

          • May 2001
          • 9664

          #5
          Here here...

          Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
          What's with the nastiness and Hate?

          Sure it might not be deep thought material and perhaps belong in paintball talk, but that's up to the Mods to decide.

          By post count, you're all noobs and in no position to claim airs of authority.

          Try being polite and friendly next time.

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          • chaos lichen
            Sanity is for the weak...
            • Nov 2004
            • 79

            #6
            Detentes don't keep a ball from rolling down the barrel after the bolt is closed. I was just looking at the whole thing from a different perspective. If it sounds kind of strange it was 1 am when I thought it and I don't think very well when I need sleep so please don't flame me.
            Everyone is equal, just some people are more equal than others.
            :shooting: :tard:
            That was a bit like sandblasting a soup cracker.
            ~Dilbert~

            Don't let your schooling get in the way of your education.
            ~Mark Twain~

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            • SlartyBartFast
              The Flying Scotsman
              • Jun 2002
              • 2940

              #7
              Originally posted by chaos lichen
              Detentes don't keep a ball from rolling down the barrel after the bolt is closed.
              Too true. Detents prevent double feeds.

              If you do a search, there are a number of very detailed (and long) threads covering "Open vs. Closed Bolt" and the various marketing myths and misconceptions.

              Welcome to AO. The Dinks that flamed you aren't representative of the genreally friendly atmosphere.

              Unfortunately, we seem to have had an invasion of PBNthink in the last couple of weeks.

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              • athomas
                Of course it works-its AGD
                • Jan 2002
                • 8039

                #8
                Hmm. Interesting observation.. Perhaps one that hasn't been thought about by the masses.

                Don't concern yourself with people who try to beat you down without adding anything intelligent to the argument. Keep on thinking outside the box.
                Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                • crazedloon
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 9

                  #9

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                  • the larch
                    Registered User
                    • May 2003
                    • 376

                    #10
                    ick. Open bolt vs. closed bolt. It's like a zombie that just won't die.
                    "[T]he evidence also strongly suggests that neither Billy nor Adam could have invented what is claimed."

                    -United States District Court judge G.M. King,
                    on Smart Parts' patent claim, August 23rd, 2004, page 16.



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                    • Lurker27
                      Registered User
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 287

                      #11
                      Sorry, forgot that intelligence is determined by postcount.

                      Oh, wait, it isn't.

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                      • crazedloon
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 9

                        #12
                        come on guys you might as well make the best of a bad post i have tryed making an argument and the first post was to so mabey if you put your head together you can actualy put some brains into this. sure we all knwo there is no real diffrence but there is some theretical diffrence

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                        • trains are bad
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1751

                          #13
                          The thing that bothers me about closed bolt, is that it has a one-size-fits-all amount of time for a paintball to feed.

                          With an OB marker, there is the whole time between shots that the bolt is open and a painball can feed. The bolt is open for as much time as possible given the rof. Wheras in a closed bolt marker it's the same amount of time whether you are shooting single shots or maxrof.

                          I also hate that I have to use a tight barrel match, when I prefer a looser one.
                          TRB's feedback

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                          • Lurker27
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 287

                            #14
                            Not with eyes. The bolt remains open until a ball in chambered.

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                            • RazorMonkey
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 289

                              #15
                              Originally posted by chaos lichen
                              Detentes don't keep a ball from rolling down the barrel after the bolt is closed.
                              Yes they do...

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