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  • punkncat
    One foot less
    • Feb 2003
    • 5841

    #1

    AGD- make us an aluminum classic valve

    I would love to see the classic re-released as an Aluminum valve , w/ lvl 7 . Reduce the weight , and anno them in several colors. Annoed colors will give that custom look everyone likes as well instead of the surgical look of the SS valve hanging off the back of the mag. Most importantly , bring back the availability of using CO2 .Many people don't have HPA around ...
    .....and get reliability back. The classic valves were so rock solid , and really did live up to the claim of zero maintainance.

    I had heard a rumor some time back that there was an on/off being made to convert X valves back to being able to use CO2. I kinda wonder if just dropping in a classic on/off would do it.......anyway , X valves are great in their own way. Super fast and all , but arguably have taken itself out of the market in price. They also require a certain amount of mechanical ability in that they commonly need adjustment and attention. There are not too many noobs out there that even consider paying $400+ for a mechanical marker that its known they will have to start fooling with LVL10 after their first game , and have to replace the bumper every second game , etc.

    Get back to the basics. The design is already there. Its time tested , and true. Just make it out of aluminum , anno it and sell one to me
  • FreakBaller12
    e-tough

    • May 2003
    • 3663

    #2
    I don't know if it's feasable, but it sounds like a good idea for some people where hpa isn't available, or a cheap backup valve.
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    • minimag03
      WVU paintball #19
      • Dec 2003
      • 2214

      #3
      I'd like to see it, but I bet it would cost just a little bit less than the X-valve. It would be nice for AGD to come out with a new 68 Automag with ULE body and alum. valve though.

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      • mag88888
        ULE MAG
        • Oct 2004
        • 983

        #4
        i wuld LOVE to see have a drop in mod to make an x valve ok to use with co2. that would rock. jusst for the times that im out of hpa, i can use co2. all my friends use co2. great ideas punkncat.
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        • LudavicoSoldier
          Red Sox National
          • Jun 2003
          • 1743

          #5
          Tom said a while back that they had planned to release a drop-in on/off to make an x-valve work like a classic.
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          • slade
            Carpe Noctem
            • Apr 2004
            • 3442

            #6
            from what ive heard the reason the x-valve doesnt work with co2 is because of the o-rings, so if they were changed co2 would work (not that some people havent already gotten it to work, but...)

            as far as releasing a redesigned ule classic valve,i dont think it would be very plausible. correct me if im wrong, but when classics were released the valve cost as much as x-valves, maybe more; the reason they are cheap now is because theyre old and outdated. making new ones would cost as much as x-valves, and i dont think anyone would want that.
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            • magman007
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              • Jun 2001
              • 7579

              #7
              its not the orings in the sence that you are thinking, the way its currently setup, the valve recharges SO fast, that the co2 cannot convert to a gas, damages all the orings, and leaks



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              • Chronobreak
                Rec Poster
                • Mar 2003
                • 5055

                #8
                not happening..LOL

                agd phased the pos classics out for a reason.

                all we have and are getting now is colored x-valve learn to lvoe it

                btw we still need more colors LIKE NICKEL( i know they said they wont )

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                • Kevmaster
                  Owners Group Div: Director
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 5475

                  #9
                  agd has had for two years now (or so) a drop in part to the x-valve that will make it lose the super-recharge rate and make it so it can take co2 (in effect, a classic valve). It is beyond me why they havn't reintroduced the classic with that part in it.

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                  • punkncat
                    One foot less
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 5841

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kevmaster
                    agd has had for two years now (or so) a drop in part to the x-valve that will make it lose the super-recharge rate and make it so it can take co2 (in effect, a classic valve). It is beyond me why they havn't reintroduced the classic with that part in it.
                    If this is true.....

                    LETS SEE IT!!!!!

                    It would be awesome for them to do that , put in a lvl 7 and rock with it.

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                    • Ken
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 141

                      #11
                      If they made a new classic valve at an affordable price, AGD WOULD DOMINATE spyder market! Imagine it a 175-250 dolllar automag that you can use co2 and is available in most stores backed by the most reliable design ever!


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                      • Chronobreak
                        Rec Poster
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 5055

                        #12
                        yeah agd was suppose to make a co2 compat valve or asembly.......this was a LONG time ago

                        havent hear anything new about it.

                        if they are indeed out i know some interested parties ex if it worked with x-vavles.

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                        • mcdkid
                          Offical PB Ref
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 845

                          #13
                          it sounds good, but that would also be a step back. taking time/money away from new projects. i would like to see this happen, and maybe Dave as a place in his heart for the classics,
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                          • GT
                            Automag?
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 5786

                            #14
                            anyone try a female stab on an X valve? X valves are far less reactive than there SS counter parts. i just figured that they would be less prone to co2 issues than past rt style valves.
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                            • slade
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 3442

                              #15
                              Originally posted by magman007
                              its not the orings in the sence that you are thinking, the way its currently setup, the valve recharges SO fast, that the co2 cannot convert to a gas, damages all the orings, and leaks
                              ahh, cool. wasnt sure if it was the materials or the mechanics of the valve.

                              Originally posted by Ken
                              If they made a new classic valve at an affordable price, AGD WOULD DOMINATE spyder market! Imagine it a 175-250 dolllar automag that you can use co2 and is available in most stores backed by the most reliable design ever!
                              or you could get one used... this is coming from the kid that got a classic for free

                              although yes, its not too plausible, but if AGD could re-release a classic with an aluminum valve and a redesigned frame (ugh i hate that stock frame) they would crush kingman.
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