Electronic marker idea for AGD

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  • slade
    Carpe Noctem
    • Apr 2004
    • 3442

    #46
    Thats a great idea. its sort of like the spyder frame modded to a mag, but that never caught on because spyder frames suck. i can shoot my ult better than my friends spyder. if AGD or a dealer made a rail to fit an E-blade to a mag, and could make the sear/noid interface work without too much moding, this will become very widespread and could cause a surge in overall mag popularity. now we just have to find someone to try this idea out
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    • minimag03
      WVU paintball #19
      • Dec 2003
      • 2214

      #47
      It would be worth a try. All AGD would need Eblade and a will to make it work.

      But, If I have to spend $300 on a frame to make my special mag work, then why don't I just get E-mag lowers?

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      • Miscue
        Super Moderator

        • Oct 2000
        • 7105

        #48
        Originally posted by minimag03
        It would be worth a try. All AGD would need Eblade and a will to make it work.

        But, If I have to spend $300 on a frame to make my special mag work, then why don't I just get E-mag lowers?

        -minimag03
        Many reasons. The EMag is or will be out of production. An E-Blade wouldn't need a big battery - this battery makes it appear to be heavy and isn't as cool. Also, the EBlade has better software... and IMO, a way better trigger. It also looks better. It has already been accepted as 'good' within the paintball community. People already owning an E-Blade could take it off their marker and put it on an AGD marker, w/o having to buy a whole new gun.

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        • Chronobreak
          Rec Poster
          • Mar 2003
          • 5055

          #49
          uhm...

          a ccoekr frame wil fit directly on a mag imho

          its getting it to work thats gonna be a prob....cockers and amgs are totoaly diff....there would be no "hot swappable" e-frame for both guns

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          • teufelhunden
            Registered Bamf
            • Jul 2003
            • 2691

            #50
            What about integrating a frame into a rail? Then it would be easier to deal with the sear matching issue, no?
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            • minimag03
              WVU paintball #19
              • Dec 2003
              • 2214

              #51
              Originally posted by Miscue
              Many reasons. The EMag is or will be out of production. An E-Blade wouldn't need a big battery - this battery makes it appear to be heavy and isn't as cool. Also, the EBlade has better software... and IMO, a way better trigger. It also looks better. It has already been accepted as 'good' within the paintball community. People already owning an E-Blade could take it off their marker and put it on an AGD marker, w/o having to buy a whole new gun.
              I see you point now. Instead of me putting the frame on ourself, why can't AGD make a deal like WGP did? It would also be cheaper because the part AGD would not need, they wouldn't buy. Plus they would be buying in bulk so that would bring the cost down more.

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              • Muzikman
                Everything AGD
                • Dec 2000
                • 6229

                #52
                Originally posted by PBX Ronin 23
                If that was the case, then why would others follow in their footsteps?

                What Miscue is getting at is to make a stock E-Blade fit on a mag, not try and make a new "mag specific frame" like the Hyper frame is.

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                • PBX Ronin 23
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 518

                  #53
                  The geometry really won't work reliably.
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                  • Eric Cartman
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                    • Apr 2003
                    • 779

                    #54
                    I think there's a demand for a nice e frame for mags. The Hyper frame was certainly not thebest looking frame, but I understand that with the new board and the ULT it ripped, however they don't seem to be available anymore.

                    I think it's a good idea Miscue.
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                    • GT
                      Automag?
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 5786

                      #55
                      lets jump ahead a few steps. an e frame is what 400 bucks? lets be honest, how many people are willing to drop 8-900 bucks for an electronic mag?
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                      • personman

                        #56
                        I really dont think a mag frame would be anywhere near $400.
                        The eblade is that expensive because it has to operate 2 solenoids, IMO. Knock off the solenoid valve and the extra compenents/software/hardware needed to operate/mount it and you knock off $150+.. I would think..

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                        • msprince
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 98

                          #57
                          Okay, it's kind of like this....
                          Just like in the comics Marvel and DC on a regular basis are HUGE rivals always trying to have the better product, the better sales, the better "Heroes", flaming each other, and being pretty much arch enemies, but occasionally they decide to work together on a crossover comic Superman vs. Wolverine or something like it. The sales usually skyrocket because in essence you are getting the best of both worlds.
                          Why wouldn't it be feasible for a "one-time" special issue marker be able to be made where WGP, AGD, and Eclipse get together to make the perfect crossover marker? It could be called the Peacemaker or something similar . LOL! But really if they worked together it could happen and I can guarantee you it would knock the industry for a loop!

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                            • Nov 2003
                            • 3180

                            #58
                            Originally posted by msprince
                            PS you have to excuse my husbands inflammatory remarks from earlier he is a lover of all markers and hates it when people call anyone's products crap.
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                            • RRfireblade

                              • Jun 2002
                              • 5103

                              #59
                              Theory is sound,application is not. As stated the layout of the E-Blade internally is completely wrong for the Mag.It would require a complete internal redesign.Also,IMO the E-Blade niod doesn't have the strength to reliably trip the Mag sear.You'd definately have to add the ULT which=more cost and more un-reliability based on the inconsistant nature of the ULT.

                              And don't forget, the E2 retails for around $450,maybe less without adding the cocking niod but still,hardly a bargin for a bolt together Emag.
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                              • PAINTBALLNEWBIE
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                                • Mar 2004
                                • 2666

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Miscue
                                Imagine you take that frame - get a Karta Body with no-holes rail. That gun would look pimp, be small, be fast, have a nice trigger, and have good software.

                                Any Photochoppers around?

                                Hehe...i did it...it may be alittle unproportional (i couldnt find any pictures of whole guns with the new 05 kartas..) and its sloppy since i didnt take too much time to do it...but anyways...here it is.

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