What actions can we promote that will bring back the old AO?

[JoshK]

why take it away? it shows how active you are...but then again you could have joined like 4 years ago and only post VERY informative posts...or opposite.

[gc82000]

also...get RID of post count (both in the member list and under your handle)

Why Should we geet rid of the post count I dont see any reason to be rid of it. I like the way AO is as a whole. It is simple to use and you get see everyone here and the post counter just goes to show the amount of time you spend on AO.

[MicroMiniMe]

well, what about people who will feel left out? the people we dont really want in the karma forum, but give eachother karma for no reason? i forsee this happening, and everyone giving everyone else karma for no reason other than they are friends

What about some kind of caps. Like person A can only give person B karma like 1/month, maybe only one time ever if its supposed to be a low karma overall system. Or limit the karma you can get for each post, maybe more for starting a good thread. Maybe limit karma granting to certain subforums and not in others.

[68magOwner]

I like the karma idea, but, think it may turn into friends giving each other good karma, rather than rewarding helpful/intelegent posters, would be interesting to try to say the least

edit- a B/S/T for good- karma posters only would be cool, avoid getting ripped

[Gabriel]

Don't have negative Karma. It's unneed. With just regular Karma, it means that if you think someones post was stupid and ignorant, you do just that...you ignore there post(and Karma). If someone makes a good post and it warrants good Karma....no one can take Karma away from them to screw them over. Only the people who make exceptional posts or just happen to be good people and earn Karma get in.

and new guys? will no one read thier posts? will they not be able to b/s/t? I can only remember twice where I was told by AGD "good post, glad to have you here". I read alot of posts that aren't bad, but a genuinely GOOD post comes once every blue moon.

And also, what about kids that go to school? They could set up one s/n at home and one on a school computer, and give the home s/n alot of karma.

Basically, I don't like the idea. I just think the mods should ban people more often, that'll get the point across. I dont mean permanently banned, just for 5 days or so.

[FreakBaller12]

What about some kind of caps. Like person A can only give person B karma like 1/month, maybe only one time ever if its supposed to be a low karma overall system. Or limit the karma you can get for each post, maybe more for starting a good thread. Maybe limit karma granting to certain subforums and not in others.

good idea


I also say replace the post count with your karma points. Which would now become AO's status symbol. As miscue said before, it all relies on AO's trust that they'll use this, and not abuse it. Maybe have one secret forum for certain karma level, not like 2 or 3. One, and only one if any.

[JoshK]

Double post. ...oh well...but I dont think it would be a bad thing to atleast try karma. Maybe we could have a select B/S/T for people with good karma(people without alot of karma can post, but cant make new threads, or people without karma can view only, and have to contact the people other ways). So their posts will get more attention. But the people without alot of karma can still sell their stuff.

[phantomhitman]

How about banning the 5 idiots who cause, directly or indirectly, the turmoil that's making AO turn to crap?

um, i found it. you answer is right here.



some of the posts whores are funny every once in a while, but enough is enough. you stop a problem by simply.....stopping it where it starts. not easy, but the most effective way.

[SpecialBlend2786]

www.matrixowner.com has pretty strict rules, i never see anything getting out of hand over there. Here are the rules as posted by Hawk, i'll just paste them here for convenience:

Post subject: I SWEAR TO GOD, IF YOU DON'T READ THIS FIRST...!!!

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ORIGINALLY POSTED BY OVERCAST:
When posting a problem to these forums, please use the search function of the forums first. Most likely your problem has already been described and solved in great detail in a previous thread. If it has not. CLEARLY STATE:

1. The problem itself
2. When it occurs, what circumstances lead to this problem occuring
3. What your current setup is at the time of the problem. This includes operation pressure, any and all mods, current bolt kit, air systems and regulators etc. I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH.
4. Anything else that would help us easily diagnose your situation.
5. A CLEAR AND PRECISE POST SUBJECT
If I see any posts with a subject including
- OMG
- Help me
- Hello
- You must know the answer
- Please help this newbie
- Something wrong
- Come on MO gurus
- This one for you
- Just wondering
- This is too complicated for me
- possible?
- Very urgent
- I have a question
- Stupid question
- Newbie needs help
- pulling my hair out
- this is driving me nuts
- WHAT THE?!?!
- HELP PLEASE!
I will delete them. I'm serious about this.
6.Asking us what the best matrix or what you should buy is not OUR problem. Do your homework.

I am serious. Especially new members.
I was very forgiving on new members, but not any more.
So 2 things!
READ the RULES!!
If you don't, and your post violates the Rules, then it will be deleted, end of story.
I spend entirely too much time on here cleaning up threads when I could be helping people.
READ the RULES!! READ the RULES!! READ the RULES!!

[ntn4502]

#1 and only way:

Make me mod and let me ban all the stupid people...

[Target Practice]

How about a private, invite-only forum, kinda like some of the stuff that the Thorums have? That way, you could have a place to where the "good" members can post and share info. It'd be kinda like AO Chat now (except, you know, fun....

I guess the question would then become if it should be able to be seen or not by the general population of AO.

If it can be seen, I imagine that a lot of whining would be going on. To get around this, the mods can partake in what seems to be their favorite activity...banning. Any complaints about it from the outside result in bans for the user.

If it can't be seen, then it doesn't really matter what people think. In fact, you could be more loose with the rules, if this was the case.

Of course, if the whole thing goes under the radar, I'm gonna assume it's the latter.....

[JoshK]

www.matrixowner.com has pretty strict rules, i never see anything getting out of hand over there. Here are the rules as posted by Hawk, i'll just paste them here for convenience:

Well those rules are good. But this is a big forum so its harder to enforce. If they did rules like that, they would probly need more mods. And that means haveing to have the Paintball Newb as one .

[paintballrulzs]

I think those are strong rules. Too many threads are just recycled threads. It seems that every other day there is a question comparing a DM4/5 to a timmy or similar. I think gun comparisons could have there own small forum would work out nicely. Just a thread where people can ask those questions like "which one is the better deal and what not" Too much of the paintball talk is taken up by these threads that noone else seems to care about it. I think things would be a lot nicer if the forum was constructed much differenly. This site used to be more helpful than it seems to be now.

[SpecialBlend2786]

Well those rules are good. But this is a big forum so its harder to enforce. If they did rules like that, they would probly need more mods. And that means haveing to have the Paintball Newb as one .

yeah, i realize that AO is slightly bigger (by slightly i mean much bigger), but I think implementing some of those rules would cut down on the clutter that we see in many of the forums.

[ScatterPlot]

A karma system IMO would be cool. Give everyone some initial karma based maybe on join date if you can, then have people be able to get more karma for posting up posts. The length of posts determines how much karma you get. Make it like a small exponential thing; for most posts people get like a range of .00 to 1.5 karma, then for real long posts people get something like 5-7 or something. Cause for the most part, long posts are good. There aren't many real long posts that are just worthless. This way, people who post a lot don't get all the rewards, and the people who just post good informative posts will get a nice reward. Then make the rest of the karma be donateable; instead of giving people karma they must simply donate some of theirs to the person recieving. That would keep people from just making 2 dummy accounts and "applauding" himself all the time. So people who post good things, like help in the tech forum or whatever, get credit for some long posts, then (if the needy person is any account) they will recieve some donated karma. Kinda like "AO dollars".

The only problem there is people could start getting real stingy with their karma, and donating like 1 AO dollar () for a real good and helpful or funny post or something.

One way to get rid of this would maybe to be able to keep track of "given" AO dollars. Like "AO spirit" or something fancy like that. This might be like a hidden stat, visible like in profiles or something but not something that everyone can see. Then use this number to determine maybe a multiplier for how much a person gets per post. So for example, if person A is mister stingy with his posts, he might have a multiplier of only 1 and get say 5 karma for a post 50 characters long. Then there's person B, who gives out a lot of karma, so for his post of 50 characters he might get say 10 karma, since he has a higher multiplier.

But that might be too hard. I dunno. Whatever. It would be cool.