What actions can we promote that will bring back the old AO?

[mcdkid]

What actions can we promote that will bring back the old AO?

kill of all the new members?

no?...ok

but i like the way www.Paintball-forum.com has rep points.

[Gr0dy]

Thats actually a great idea. A kind of feedback system. If you have crappy feedback/karma you souldn't be allowed to b/s/t untill your karma goes up

but what about the "poor" people, or if you havent bought enough stuff to even make a feed back thread? What would those people do, then they would never have a chance to get a good feedback.

[TheDuelist]

I'm sorry but you have to take the good with the bad. As long as AO has an open join policy I really don't see a good way to regulate the stupidity your wanting to filter out. There are those out there who lurk and don't really care to post and others who post on every thread thats started. Mods have enough to worry about without hearing someone whining about how someone gave them bad karma or how come they can't post somewhere because they don't have enough. How much more work do you guys want?

Just like everything else AO is suffering some growing pains. Yeah its nice to sit around and say "remember when?" Why can't we take the energy spent on looking in the past and direct to the future? The forum is growing. Is that such a bad thing? We as a community can police the idiocy and still keep our beloved AO and in the process we are exposing more people to what we are here for.

[Lee]

i think banning the trouble makers is an option. karma will be abused, it also will encourage eliteism and classes of ao'ers.

a karma like system would personally turn me off to ao. problems should be addressed directly. eventually, they will go away.

[tony3]

I like the idea of an invite only forum. Just make it that if someone is being a very good member, making intelligent posts and following the rules he can get in.

[teufelhunden]

I like the idea of an invite only forum. Just make it that if someone is being a very good member, making intelligent posts and following the rules he can get in.

So, like, you'd never get in?

[tony3]

Reported.

[Tunaman]

but what about the "poor" people, or if you havent bought enough stuff to even make a feed back thread? What would those people do, then they would never have a chance to get a good feedback.

Grody? Do you have a feedback thread yet? If not, start one up and i will surely post in it. You'll get there man...don't worry about a thing. Its all good around here.

[mcdkid]

take what you can get. i have problems getting a few people to post in my feedback thread. they say they will, and forget(it would be GOOD feedback btw). lol

[deathstalker]

What's "the old AO"?

There have always been annoying people.
There have always been troublemakers.
There have always been postwhores.
There have always been trolls.
There have always been knowledgeable people.
There have always been helpful people.
There have always been people complaining about one thing or another they don't like about the forums.
There have always been people who have had a beef with a mod.
There have always been people who whine and complain.

Be careful what you wish for.

AO has always had these (and many other) types of people and you'll never truly be rid of them. It's also not specific to AO; you'll see people like this on countless boards whether it's about paintball or breast cancer.

As for karma, I remember PBC having a good system for it (to prevent abuse), but it's been so long I can't remember the specific rules.

I think people should pay more attention to their options, especially the 'ignore user' feature. I've always thought it ironic, sad, and/or pathetic (depending on my mood) that my ignore list on AO has more users on it than all other forums on which I am a member combined.

[Blennidae]

I don't think an invite only forum, or a karma system is the answer. I think we as AO'ers have to police ourselves more. There has been a lot of challenging the mods authority lately, whining about the swear filter, and things like that. The rules are in place. The mods are there to enforce them. If you have a problem with a mods decision, contact them privately. If you do it publically, then everyone jumps on the bandwagon.

I have seen a newbie post, only to have someone flame him and his question. It would have been just as easy to calmly answer the question, or to remind him there is a search engine. And I don't mean an animated .gif pointing to the search button.

If everyone conducts themselves like mature people its easier to point the mods towards the ones who are messing things up.

If the mods hand down a 3 day ban to someone, they can either learn from it or come back and get the permaban. If it gets around that AO does not tolerate people being stupid, the stupid people don't bother to stay.

I know there are some posters on PbN that used to do nothing but cause problems here. They were either banned or left because they found it was not worth their trouble to try to prove how e-tough they were.

You post whores (and you know who you are) maybe think twice before posting something flippant. If it doesn't really add to the thread, let it slide.

I think a quick refresher on the rules and the mods cracking down on them would probably work.

Just my opinion.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

Invite only forum- As long as everyone can view it, it should work out. Only the invited people can actually post in it.

Good Karma points- It could work. Possibly limit it somehow by either a persons IP and/or their username. And then limit how much people can get. I could see a new member (i.e. 2 weeks old) using his other computer to give him karma points everyday. The result is alot of fake karma.

[nastymag]

i say a couple of more mods...and clear cut rules is what is needed.

But we have to watch ...we dont want mods like some of the ones on PBN, that spam for HK and in general do not conduct themselves well

[magman007]

i think banning the trouble makers is an option. karma will be abused, it also will encourage eliteism and classes of ao'ers.

a karma like system would personally turn me off to ao. problems should be addressed directly. eventually, they will go away.

you see, the thing is, there already is an "elitism" on ao. and these people know who they are. they are the people that barely post any more, because ao has turned to crap. its been on a down slope since early 2k2 and has continued since. some people are tired of it, completely. people complain about things, and there is nothing mods can do. personally i am so tired of emagballer and dj that i want to get off ao for ever, but i wont because i have too many friends here.

its sad, when a few individuals can sour the milk. but if we tossed them, more would come back. its inevitable. if fight club was setup again, or something to that effect, or possibly a karma invite only forum, then the people that matter would be aloud to have our good, long, healthy inteligent conversations once again. and the others, well they could go around spewing the crap they seem to do now. people could obviously earn their way in, but it would take hard work.

most people want something more and more, especially if they cant have it. when fight club came around, i desired to be in, but sat back, and tried to prove my self worthy, i have a feeling that through good posts, and followings of the rules, i could have made it in, but it just turned to crap when everyone was allowed in. fc=Deepblue now btw.

do you understand?

[Automaggot68]

good idea


I also say replace the post count with your karma points. Which would now become AO's status symbol. As miscue said before, it all relies on AO's trust that they'll use this, and not abuse it. Maybe have one secret forum for certain karma level, not like 2 or 3. One, and only one if any.

I dont think there should be a status system at all, to be honest.
On the note of post count, what will that change? Postwhores are still postwhores.