What actions can we promote that will bring back the old AO?

[ScatterPlot]

Now that you've brought it up that warning thing sounds pretty good. I also like the notion of a read-only public forum, where you can only post when invited. On top of that, another forum could be added that is accessible to the invited people, but is used maybe only to discuss who to invite and things that are unnecessary for non-invite people to get into. That would require some modding to keep unworthy topics in the one that was read only, but if it's an invite only one then the people there would probably be good about putting things where they should go, not to mention being able to understand why a mod does what he does. The warning thing could work very well I think. It could also help determine who gets in the invite-only forum.

Please note that the second invite only no outside access forum would be not so that those people could be special or anything, just to make it easy to discuss who would be invited or something.

And while I respect all the people who save up for a long time to get their guns and all, and don't leech off others for their stuff, but nothing personal we don't want to see your gun. It looks just like all the other guns that come out. Every time Rogue sells a gun we see it in a new thread. They all look good, but we don't need a new thread notifying us that a new gun has been sold. If it just got annoed a cool new color, or if you homemade something, or it's something unusual then it deserves a new thread. Not dissing mags, but I don't want to see every new one that gets out there. Maybe in a pics thread, but not in it's own thread.

[Glickman]

Why Should we geet rid of the post count I dont see any reason to be rid of it. I like the way AO is as a whole. It is simple to use and you get see everyone here and the post counter just goes to show the amount of time you spend on AO.

time spent on AO doesnt = time spent positively contributing



i say out with the counter

[PBX Ronin 23]

I second that motion!

[ScatterPlot]

As much as I've liked watching my post count rise (albeit slowly) over the few years I've been here, far too many times it is a reflection of who has too much spare time on their hands, rather than who has the most participation with AO.

Don't get me wrong- I've done my share of whoring, but a lack of counters would reduce the pressure on people to whore away all the time to feel "part of AO".

[Magaman]

If Tom still owned ADG, I'd say we need to keep the post count so he could prove that he did care about his customers, but now that he doesn't have customers anymore, I don't see any problem with tossing the Post Count...

I still think we need a Political Forum2 File Drawers and a pile of Crap on my desk. I now have 2 File Cabinets

[PBX Ronin 23]

Political Forum. Hmmmm.

When you say 'political' do you mean discussions such as "why Company A is wrong for pursuing it's legal rights" or "Person B is a poo poo head who likes to do bad deeds"....?

A little clarity please. I'm in agreement with you for the most part.

[Big'n slo]

Hell, reverse the post count.
Everyone gets, say 500 posts a year.
Use them wisely

[Magaman]

Political Forum. Hmmmm.

When you say 'political' do you mean discussions such as "why Company A is wrong for pursuing it's legal rights" or "Person B is a poo poo head who likes to do bad deeds"....?

A little clarity please. I'm in agreement with you for the most part.

Anything worth arguing over... So yes that would be something you would see there...

Some days I don't want to see the arguments, but they pop up in the Paintball talk anyway. Sure they can be ignored, but after they bump to the top every time I refresh....

I just know the argument threads start most of the fights and the commotion. If they have there own Forum, they can at least be "Readers Beware"... You can expect to have ranting.

I just think it will be healthy for AO if these Threads were moved to there own Forum.

Same goes with the Look at my new stuff/gun Threads... They are cluttering up the Paintball Talk thread. I do like seeing what other people have, so I don't think it should be a Rule that people cant post these threads. I do think they need there Own Forum Topic though...

[Magaman]

Hell, reverse the post count.
Everyone gets, say 500 posts a year.
Use them wisely

That is a good idea except it would screw the Dealers and most of the People that do try to help out where they can.

[Gabriel]

Its the dumb threads that showcases the 1 in 500 guns that's the bane of AO's existence. Is there really a polite way of saying, "sorry bud but you gun isn't all that impressive and I don't care if you've spent the entire summer saving for it."

Perhaps if AO was to establish more strict posting parameters, then these type of things wouldn't happen so often. Maybe creating a permanently stickied picture thread will give these posters a venue to showcase their pride and joy.......just some random thoughts.

One long pic thread wont work. If you dont want to see the "look at my new gun" thread, dont. No one forces you to, right?

I dont think AO will ever be the same as it was. You have to look back the reason AO was good it the old days is because there was new products to talk about. We had the Super bolt. Intelli Frame, Lv10 Bolt, 4500 Flatline XMag and ULE Bodies, We had chat parties, when was the last one of those. Team Blackcell hosted the first AO day in NJ, then almost every state did 1. That is what made AO. When new products were coming out people had something to talk about. Or planning AO days. It was nice to come on and talk about the AGD teams and how the were doing, No more teams nothing to talk about. No more new products nothing to talk about. So I dont see AO ever being what it was.

He hit it on the head. There aren't that many heady discussions becuase there are no longer that many heady topics. It could be all the other manufacturers, or it could be AGD. When was the last time any company put out a truly new product? I mean REVOLUTIONARY, and not just EVOLUTIONARY? It's been a looooong time.

oh, and away with the post count...

[shartley]

[teufelhunden]

Because it builds community.

[PBX Ronin 23]

One long pic thread wont work. If you dont want to see the "look at my new gun" thread, dont. No one forces you to, right?

To each his own. Perhaps the points made above where a separate section can be created as to not clutter Paintball Talk.

He hit it on the head. There aren't that many heady discussions becuase there are no longer that many heady topics. It could be all the other manufacturers, or it could be AGD. When was the last time any company put out a truly new product? I mean REVOLUTIONARY, and not just EVOLUTIONARY? It's been a looooong time.

I truly beg to differ.

Heady Topics: WDP and prognosticating their next move. K2 on the legal offensive. SP losing its legs. Prognosticating, pontificating and any other _____ing you can do for paintball. The limit is your capacity to reach out and find these topics.

New Product Worthy of a Heady Discussion: New SP guns without reprogrammable boards. What WGP's next electro move. The DM5 and the evolution of the spool valve. UThomas' Nasty Typhoon.......and that's not even mentioning the "a" new valving technology.

It is not the lack of worthy subjects but the relative lack of worthy posters vis-a-vis "check my new GAT" posters.

The point is the over-all Dumbing-down of AO and watching it evolve to something less than what it was before.

[CrimsonTurkey]

Wow,

normally my suggestions go completely unnoticed.

Anyway, what I was origionally suggesting was that the mods be able to hand out a higher rank, so to speak, to outstandging members of AO, which would allow them to post in a forum that was for the general populace, read only. I saw this during my short time at the tippmann forums and i noticed that it really worked, the irritating people were content with posting their mask made from cardboard and glass shards (im serious) in the normal forums, while the people that made it even somewhat worthwhile browsed all the forums.

We could even bring back fight club as a thread or two inside the insider's forum.

When I saw this it seemed to make the wise and intelligent members of the community role-models rather than feudal overlords. Plus stupid people couldn't get in in any way other than by being helpful.

Thank for listening AO (for once)


"I've got AO on a string
sittin' on a rainbow"

[Magaman]