What actions can we promote that will bring back the old AO?

[Big'n slo]

In no way should anyone be allowed a place to break the rules.

"Theres a time and a place for everything, its called college"

Sorry couldn't resist.

The only problem I see with additional forums is increased policing for otherwise overworked non-professional (read unpaid) mods.

[PBX Ronin 23]

Crimson Turkey ----- People do see who is posting the substantive stuff.
Magaman----YOU DA MAN!

Political Forum (Fight Club): Can be potentially intriguing. May very well be the highest generator of traffic into the site. It could be bare knuckle for that matter. Rule though is do it INTELLIGENTLY and substantiate your position with FACTS. Debate your points but repect the others' position even if you disagree. Unreasonable posters can be banned from posting again on the thread by the Mods.

Marker Forum: Bring your Bling where people who care to see it can see it.

Don't Stone Me Cuz I'm A Newb Forum: Have a convenient place for those in need to get some help.

[GT]

More forums and more mods dont solve anything. I think we should have about 4 forums and maybe 4 mods...

[Magaman]

Wow,

normally my suggestions go completely unnoticed.

Anyway, what I was origionally suggesting was that the mods be able to hand out a higher rank, so to speak, to outstandging members of AO, which would allow them to post in a forum that was for the general populace, read only. I saw this during my short time at the tippmann forums and i noticed that it really worked, the irritating people were content with posting their mask made from cardboard and glass shards (im serious) in the normal forums, while the people that made it even somewhat worthwhile browsed all the forums.

We could even bring back fight club as a thread or two inside the insider's forum.

When I saw this it seemed to make the wise and intelligent members of the community role-models rather than feudal overlords. Plus stupid people couldn't get in in any way other than by being helpful.

Thank for listening AO (for once)


"I've got AO on a string
sittin' on a rainbow"

-Council Members
-Officers
-Members
-Probation Members
-House Keepers

Here is how the whole system works in Reverse Order:

Probation Members:Members:Officers:

Like stated above, they are first chosen by the Council Members. The Council members need to choose at least 10 - 20 Officers to start with. Then these officers can discuss amongst themselves if there are any other members that should be ranked officer. A member needs a minimum of 10 Officers Invite Votes. (Which are posted in a thread similar to the Probie Thread, but in the Officer forums) Only officers can place a Member in this Thread to vote on.

Same rules apply to Officers as do Members. If an officer is out of line and at least 10 officers feel that way. The officer will be demoted to a Member and will have to wait at least a week and will have to be Re-Invited by Officer Votes only.

Council Members:
The House Keeper:

[PBX Ronin 23]

Whoa Magaman! My college dissertation was shorter than that.

But point well taken.

[spantol]

Wow. That's a whole lot of bureaucracy.

Surely, judicious use of the Ignore button would be easier on everybody.

[rx2]

[GT]

Whoa Magaman! My college dissertation was shorter than that.

But point well taken.

what's your phd in?

[GT]

No only do some people remember things slightly better than they were, .

I think there is alot of that fueled by explosive product growth. people were excited to be here because there were products being made for thier guns. how many of those old members still on mags, which is the whole point of this site? AGD fails to innovate, AO fails....

[PBX Ronin 23]

I had to do an undergrad dissertation as part of the joint program with the London School of Eco.

RX2 is right and your response is also insightful.

BTW......RX2's post is definitely AO material and we are at a loss for not having more like him post on a regular basis.

[ScatterPlot]

All I gotta say is wow. This thread has been great. Gives me an idea for another one that I might try, see how it goes. If we had karma, I'd give you guys some

Anyway, I kinda like the beaurocracy thing mentioned above. I think it would help with control and all, and help keep things civil and all.

But some questions in it.
What are the roles of the Council and the Officers? Like specifically. Banning people? Maybe the Officers can temp ban, the council permaban. I dunno- you've obviously done it before successfully, what did they do? I see the Housekeepers more taking the place of mods, unless their job is ONLY to move posts around, and not to edit them in any way. Please explain, the whole thing sounds good.


So far though my favorite thing that IMO should be implemented with whatEVER else goes on is the warning system. Maybe like a dual layered thing- sorta like the three strikes law with felonies and all. Have one that ticks away for mods warning users and all, that gives way to bans, then when you hit "ban level" and get banned the second layer ticker goes off one. This second one might lower over time, but it would have to be a VERY slow dropping.

I dunno, that might be too hard to code. But I think something should be done. Not NEEDS to, Should be. I think that it will be OK without something, but would be better with something.

[ScatterPlot]

On another note- If a karma system is applied, one way to do it might be to have the user get karma per post that he puts up. I kinda mentioned this earlier but now I thought it through a little more. What if:

A user got karma for each post he makes. The length of the post determines how much karma he gets, based on like an exponential scale, like I said earlier. Very small posts=almost no karma, very large posts=tons of karma. An exponential thing or something maybe. And have the user have a rating that mods can adjust; if the mod sees a particularly usefyul person, he might give them some multiplier karma. That would mean that the person gets more karma per post than a regular person would get, and the exponential graph would increase in steepness. Like so the long posts now get a BUNCH of karma for them, cause they have been posting a bunch of them or something. That way people have no reason (well get rid of post counts) to sit there and post whore, and instead post something meaningful. Not only do they get goodies for posting good stuff, but if they post enough good stuff that the mods know they are not such a big karma whore then they get some goodies for the small posts too, and as you keep going up on the "# of big posts list" you get even more stuff per post.








Oh and mods- What kind of ideas do you want/are looking for? Do you want completely off the wall brainstorming ideas that could end up being hard to implement, or do you want like proven ideas that we could use without too much new coding trouble?

Or do you want us to just shut up and move on with our lives?

[shartley]

Rx2,
Great post. Now THAT is reminiscent of the Old AO. And that is what I miss.

[Gr0dy]

Grody? Do you have a feedback thread yet? If not, start one up and i will surely post in it. You'll get there man...don't worry about a thing. Its all good around here.

Thanks tuna, im going to make one once i buy a little more stuff.

[Magaman]

All I gotta say is wow. This thread has been great. Gives me an idea for another one that I might try, see how it goes. If we had karma, I'd give you guys some

Anyway, I kinda like the beaurocracy thing mentioned above. I think it would help with control and all, and help keep things civil and all.

But some questions in it.
What are the roles of the Council and the Officers? Like specifically. Banning people? Maybe the Officers can temp ban, the council permaban. I dunno- you've obviously done it before successfully, what did they do? I see the Housekeepers more taking the place of mods, unless their job is ONLY to move posts around, and not to edit them in any way. Please explain, the whole thing sounds good.


So far though my favorite thing that IMO should be implemented with whatEVER else goes on is the warning system. Maybe like a dual layered thing- sorta like the three strikes law with felonies and all. Have one that ticks away for mods warning users and all, that gives way to bans, then when you hit "ban level" and get banned the second layer ticker goes off one. This second one might lower over time, but it would have to be a VERY slow dropping.

I dunno, that might be too hard to code. But I think something should be done. Not NEEDS to, Should be. I think that it will be OK without something, but would be better with something.

House Keepers Council Members Officers http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163922Overseer of the ForumTom