Crown Point Barrel Discussion

[Butterfingers]

Originally posted by Minimag4me
lets not get in a big arguement, but when you told your friend his car was being towed did you write two page long letters using common marketing techniques to make him buy your car. Tom basically told us all we know about bore size is a lie so buy his product to fix everything. Tom didnt intend to teach us anything he intended to win a bet that not everyone is a sheep but you are right he did what he intended.

If i were to blow up that car you were telling you friend that was being towed, i did what i intended. Does that make it right?

Just remember sometimes jokes are cruel and can hurt people.

If I blew up his car he would be a couple of thousand dollars in the hole. In this case, if you wanted to you could get your money back or a free parts kit ($20 value) for participating.

[hitech]

Originally posted by Wild_Osiris
I mean people would come here and ask which gun should I get and man the swarm would quickly rally saying "to get the mag".(in nearly any case).

This is a automag forum. Most people here own a mag as their primary marker. Why? Most likely because they think it is the best (for the money, for the type of playing they do, etc). Of course they are going to recommend it. It's what they decided to buy. I've met VERY few people who will ask a lot of questions and recommend something other than what they personally use.

[hitech]

Originally posted by AGD
This forum can hurt me more than it can help.

Another very important point to remember.

[Vegeta]

"I think someone spiked the coke"

It's DIET PEPSI.

Well, I don't think anyone will totally stop buying from AGD becuase of this. Russ, admit it... you will keep you mag. You will eventually figure out htat its the way to go.

[AGD]

110 posts and 1600 views later the discussion continues. This illustrates that paintball players as a group are very diverse and harbor a variety of opinions. In a way it's strange they come together at all because in many respects they are not "like minded" people. It no wonder we as manufacturers have a hard time figuring out what you like!

I think it's interesting that an overblown sales pitch sparks such debate here when it doesn't in the general paintball world. I don't think I have ever seen a thread commenting on the pros or cons of a manufacturers add claims.

Maybe this is the start of a whole new way of looking at paintball. Instead of saying "that product is junk" it will turn into "prove it works!". Now that would be interesting.

AGD

[Miscue]

Oooh... Prove it Works... I'll have to change my sig now... :)

[Russ]

Vegeta said...

Russ, admit it... you will keep your mag.

Well I never said that was going to sell off any of my AGD stuff. I may get the E-Mag converted to an extreme when the time comes...anti-chop eye sounds like a good thing (I hope)

I also did not cancel the order for the 4500 Flatline. I'm still not sure why. Tom, "prove it works!" I sure hope I don't regret it.

[BTAutoMag]

were loyal to tom if he says its good then thats good enough for most of us

[hitech]

Originally posted by AGD
"prove it works!". Now that would be interesting.

That would be revolutionary.

[hotty9669]

Marketing and Selling are the same

Shartley marketing and selling ARE the same they are just different steps in the process. With big ticket items marketing is used to get you in the showroom so you can be sold. The Chevy truck looks good AND is safe for my family ie.. it will not roll over avoiding obstacles like some SUV's. Marketing gives you preconceived notions about what a product will do for you. Take your Mountain Dew for example do people think that they can sky surf like a pro after drinking a can no, but does it plant the idea of being young, free, and cool? Yes! Whether you want to believe it or not we all react to these messages at some level.
Marketing is selling by putting these ideas in your head which then leads to you at the wal-mart looking at ten different brands of the same product all in the same price group but one tends to stand out because somewhere in your head you are thinking that one is safer, sexier, has a better company behind it. At stores like Wal-Mart or Best Buy (most of the time) you do not have people telling you why to buy one over the other the marketing has already told you that.
In the end marketing leads you to one product over another.
As this pertains to AGD part of the marketing they do (whether they realize it or not) is their customer service, and the fact that the products they release work.
This gives AGD the "market" reputation of tank like products that a company stands behind, and are actual improvements which leads a lot of former smart parts owners their way.

Well that my rant for now.

[gimp]

When did this happen? I missed the whole thing.

[Smoken]

I think it happened like a week ago. It was the day Tom made this thread I'm pretty sure.

[Jonno06]

Who knows where i can get that crown point barrel for 20$????I want one for memories.(colectable now!)BTW...Tom,Little John had a crown point barrel on his mag in the very old mag video.The one with first nitro introduced,and introduction of mimimag.How??
PS...I like being one of Tom's sheep anyway!!

[DJSOLID]

I've never posted here before.
I've never bought anything online before I bought a hat and some stickers on the 10th and patches from AGD and the following day (the 11th)I ordered that barrel. I didn't even read whatever you guys are talking about "big marketing hype thing" - I just saw it and ordered it. I thought "this is the only barrel on the site - it must be good". I got the barrel and the parts kit today in ups. No one will probably read this anyway, but I'm kinda confused and well, probably won't buy anything from Airgun Designs again. My buddy told me I was spending too much on this minimag I bought from a field i play at - that I should just buy a tippmann or something but I wanted quality. I'm obviously not as into paintball yet as some (most) of you guys/gals are and now I'm not so sure I want to be. Now that I realize I've been duped - do I keep this crown point and take the pat on the head with the parts kit cookie? Does this sort of "test" happen all the time? Cause the second day I ever used this site it happened...

[hitech]

Originally posted by DJSOLID
Now that I realize I've been duped - do I keep this crown point and take the pat on the head with the parts kit cookie?

I'd keep it, but then when I bought mine I WANTED it. You got a bonus parts kit ($20 retail, BTW) also. Since you have a used marker the parts kit will come in handy some day. As far as I know (haven't received mine yet) the barrel is fine, esp. for $20. Worth it in my opinion. Put it on the marker and find out for yourself.

BTW, are YOU happy with your automag? If so, don't worry about what other think.

Good luck, not that you'll need it!