"You can run the xvalve on Co2"

[maglover728]

I just found this post on warpig.com. Is this guy somin something or...

"If you try this, do it in a vertical ASA adaptor. You can run the xvalve on Co2, but it's not gonna like it when you start shooting fast. But you can try it it's won't kill your xvalve. Make sure to lube it up well before you do this.
If I was doing something as nutty as this, I'd get a 45 degree ASA tilted towards teh trigger."

I am not an expert, but are you not susposed to use co2 in an RT because it won't keep up in rapid fire or for other reasons?

[okiTony]

Co2

I wouldn't put CO2 in to any Mag. It didn't like it in my classic, I always had problems, even with the 6 stage expansion chamber. I even tried using a remote. I will NEVER or even think of putting it into my RT with the XValve. That would be crazy.

[maglover728]

That is what I am thinking but there is a guy on that forum saying, "go for it, just us an expansion chamber and all will be fine." Before I inform him that he is out of his mind , I just wanted to be sure. Thanks for the back up here.


Anyone else care to comment?

[Rooster]

It has nothing to do with the expanion of the gas. A little shoot down will be the least of your problems. The tolerances are tighter in the RT valves and CO2 is a dirty gas that will plug it up.

[Mike Smith]

Re: the classic Mag.
I shot my level 7 with a vertical CO2 bottle for 10 years. With the on-off valve {it had a big hole from the tank}, I experienced minimal shoot-down over the years, and even froze the bottom 1/4 of my 12OZ tank on a 45 degree day at PB Sams and still was able to shoot the Mag {Yea... velocity was down to about 200 FPS, but it did shoot...}

That said... now that I have HPA, I'll never go back to CO2 on my Mag.

I'll still use 12 gram CO2 on my modified Phantom.

[Dayspring]

It'll shoot fine for about 3 shots. Then it will get liquid into the valve and piss CO2 out of every orifice.

The RT recharges SO quickly that the CO2 does not have time to make the phase change from liquid to gas.

The guy you're talking to is an idiot.

[GT]

female palmer to an expansion chamber to the valve. To say that any gun wont work on CO2, I think, is a bit dishonest. There are very few guns that can handle a blast of liquid co2, however, they can handle the icy cold nature of co2 just fine.

I am suprised we have not seen anyone on AO really give the co2 on an xvalve a try considering we would get more shots out of co2. good scernario gas....

[P8ntBallBoom]

Speaking of guns that can handle liquid CO2 without dying, anyone know which ones can? My old sherdian nemesis could, don't ask me why but it just did.

[GT]

Speaking of guns that can handle liquid CO2 without dying, anyone know which ones can? My old sherdian nemesis could, don't ask me why but it just did.

my eclipse shocker was not only one of the most consistant guns i ever owned, but it ate CO2 and loved it! I't wouldnt be un common to get triples or quds over the chrono, rock solid +/-0. If any liquid ever got into the dual selenoids they were toast, but that never happened with the max flow.. Angels are great to as long as the are regged correctly, spyders, tippys, bko's b2lks, o'wait you can probally list ever single gun ever made into the co2 cotagory as long as its done correctly.

[Army]

I am suprised we have not seen anyone on AO really give the co2 on an xvalve a try considering we would get more shots out of co2. good scernario gas....

Well, I suppose I could simply quote Tom from 1996, when he stated with authority that the new RT valve cannot be used with Co2, due to the too fast recharge rate not allowing liquid Co2 time to phase to gas.

Or, you could do an easy search for my impromptu test on my MiniMag, when I swapped the Classic valve for an Emag valve...and just for excitement and "what if"...I hooked up a 20oz tank to it, and promptly froze it shut in less than 6 shots.

Or, you could take Daysprings word for it.

[WARPED1]

I wouldn't put CO2 in to any Mag. It didn't like it in my classic, I always had problems, even with the 6 stage expansion chamber. I even tried using a remote. I will NEVER or even think of putting it into my RT with the XValve. That would be crazy.

CO2 in a Classic mag is 100% fine, CO2 itself just sucks. The first mag was released and used by tons of people before N2 was used, enen before it was released at all, cockers too. I do believe TK had most to do with the first paintball N2 bottle.

[TheDuelist]

I ran my first classic hooked up to 2 20oz tanks and a remote line for years before going to HPA. I never had a problem a single problem with it. Good maintenance and a litle TLC goes a long way.

[NoForts4Me]

Speaking of guns that can handle liquid CO2 without dying, anyone know which ones can? My old sherdian nemesis could, don't ask me why but it just did.

I used a Tippmann 68 Special on Liquid CO2 many years ago. It was a very consistent and accurate marker. I believe some Sterling pumps work well on liquid CO2 as well.

I've been using CO2 (non-liquid :)) on a Classic for 1 1/2 years, and have not had to replace the o-rings yet. I just use an anti-siphon tank and expansion chamber.

[Target Practice]

I wouldn't put CO2 in to any Mag. It didn't like it in my classic, I always had problems, even with the 6 stage expansion chamber. I even tried using a remote. I will NEVER or even think of putting it into my RT with the XValve. That would be crazy.

Uh...the Classic valves were designed before HPA was even in wide use, IIRC. You were probably OVERexpanding your CO2. That was your fault, not the CO2.


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[Conversekidz]

My 68 carbine loves to drink Co2, its great, start shooting the gun, tip it downwards to suck in the liquid and then level again to shoot. It would start spitting out ice and keep on going like nothing happened.