Any other services similar to DevilMAG?

[gortman44]

Ok, you get what you pay for. quick and simple. devil mad for mags, spyder mad for spyder. will work but will eventually brake. If you brake devil you send it in say you broke it an he will fix it. you brake your spyder, now what. You dont take it to just about anyone to get it fixed.

2. you have to find all the parts for a spyder frame. gonna take a while. devil already made to order. will just have to wait on the machinist to get Ga Devil the frames. He then will get it out as fast as possible.

you get what you pay for

[SCpoloRicker]

Mine's Better! No Mine! No Mine!


/where the hell is mine

[tonybhall]

Hey Guys,

Not trying to start a flame fest or even say that one frame is better than another. To each his own. But don't discount the spyder mag mod if you don't really know anything about it.

I have yet to hear or see any negative comments by anyone that has a spydermag about how they work.

As far as the spyder trigger frame being cheaply made and sure to break. Well, that's not entirely accurate for this discussion. While I would not play with an actual spyder cause I dont like the guns themselves, the actual trigger frame, selonoid and sear are well made. Those are really the only parts of the spyder used. We dont use the spyder board or any part of the spyder gun itself.

As far as the Devil mag frame being "made for a mag." What does that mean? That GA Devil drilled the holes for the frame screws to match the holes in the mag? Ok, well I drilled the holes in my ESP frame to match the holes in my mag. Therefore it is now "Made for a Mag."

Granted, if you like the way the Devil mag looks, want a 90* Frame and want eyes already installed and don't mind paying $550 to get it, then the Devil Mag is the way to go. But you don't have to trash the spyder mag to say something nice about the Devil Mag.

But if you are handy, have the right tools and know how to shop around. You can do your own spydermag mod for around $150 including frame, grips, trigger, new board and switch. Take the $400 you saved and go play some paintball.

[gortman44]

TONYBHALL dood I meant no offense towards you . peace. I was just saying that I think and have heard that the spyder solinoid would wear down because of mag on/ off. Dood you have a nice set up, and I could of made one too, but I fell in love with the devilmag. I might still make a spyder mod to test difference. sorry. Didnt mean to sound that way :) :)

[warbeak2099]

I also did not mean to sound offensive to anyone.

The spyder noid will not wear out because of the mag on/off. You use a ULT just like in the devilmag. The two solenoids (centerflag and kingman) are of equal strength and quality.

The predator board will not be any faster than the tboard legally. Both are uncapped and with a 25g tswitch, a spydermag will have a lighter pull than the devilmag's 80g switch.

If I had a choice I would of course choose the devilmag. But the savings between the two is substantial. The quality and performance of the parts used are extremely comparible. It's not like the kingman noid will short and go nuts. It's the same design as the devilmag's centerflag noid. The only real difference is the frame and the board an eyes. Everything else (capacitor, noid, switch) is basically the same. A switch is a switch and a noid is a noid.

That having been said, the Tboard w/ ramp chip and Predator AFA board are comparible. They both are uncapped, fully programmable, support eyes, have multiple modes, blah blah blah. The Tboard is just much cheaper and is backed by a very customer friendly guy. Damon is just as focused with his customers as GA Devil. Both are stand-up guys.

Let's recap.

Devilmag:

Multiple modes
Fully programmable
ACE
Backed by great company/guy
Good quality
Fast
90* Frame or 45* Frame
Very expensive

Spydermag:

Multiple modes
Fully programmable
ACE
Backed by great company/guy (the tboard)
Same quality
Just as fast
45* Frame only (for the time)
Relatively cheap

Am I missing anything?

[tonybhall]

no prob. gortman,

Devil Mag or SpyderMag, it's still a Mag and that's what counts.

if you do a spydermag just make sure you have a ult. then you won't have any problems with the spyder selenoid. With a regular on/off, you would have problems.


if you decided to give it a shot let me know. i'll be glad to help.

[gortman44]

yeah I will. I just need to look for a cheap frame to get.you see any let me know.

I have level 10, and ult so no prob there.

I have 4 periods in my woodshop in highschool. SO I have access to tools and time to work on it. Dont ask me why i have so many periods or how. Everybody likes me and things just work out. plus I love wood working.

[tonybhall]

check e-bay and pbn. you'll find poeple selling used imagines for like $75 for the whole gun.

sometimes you can even find just the frame for around $55-$65 on e-bay. I've been trying to figure out a way to buy the frame without the board.

[Lohman446]

Let's recap.

Devilmag:

Multiple modes
Fully programmable
ACE
Backed by great company/guy
Good quality
Fast
90* Frame or 45* Frame
Very expensive

Spydermag:

Multiple modes
Fully programmable
ACE
Backed by great company/guy (the tboard)
Same quality
Just as fast
45* Frame only (for the time)
Relatively cheap

Am I missing anything?

I think you've oversimplified it. Nothing against teh Spydermag theory but... well there's a certain prestige to paintball, and the marker one shoots is a big part of it. I would argue that for serious tournament teams that marker that they shoot is part of marketting themselves and just as important as the game they play as far as sponsorships are concerned. Fact of the matter is the Spyder frame is still a Spyder frame cobbled onto a mag and the Devilmag is a custom piece of art.

[tonybhall]

I think you've oversimplified it. Nothing against teh Spydermag theory but... well there's a certain prestige to paintball, and the marker one shoots is a big part of it. I would argue that for serious tournament teams that marker that they shoot is part of marketting themselves and just as important as the game they play as far as sponsorships are concerned. Fact of the matter is the Spyder frame is still a Spyder frame cobbled onto a mag and the Devilmag is a custom piece of art.

I don't think the the pioneers of the spyder mag ever had top level sponsored tournament players in mind. It was designed as an inexpensive way to turn your mech mag into fast and reliable e-marker. It has exceeded every one of its users expectations.

And what's this about cobbled? Are we talking aobut shoes or mags.

[SCpoloRicker]

Uh, I know of exactly one user of a full, 90*, board and eyes DM, and its phantonman. He loves his, yes, but not enough are in circulation for a good solid review.

I'd definately consider building a spydermag for giggles, and to have an (extra) loaner marker.

/bought full DM #2, waiting for it to get here.

[p8ntball365]

i definetly think the spydermag is the way to go. The difference in money spent is quite a bit. I'm kinda stuck now.

P.S. Does anyone think it would be easier to sell a spyder-mag or a mechanical mag?

[SCpoloRicker]

spydermag will have better resale, as its just cheap parts and labor. Ease of sale, well, that might depend on the quality of your work. Someone (tonyhball?) had mentioned that they are doing conversions, and I believe he's getting 75-100 for his work.

[p8ntball365]

kinda off topic, should i part my my mag or spydermag it then sell?

[warbeak2099]

I don't think the the pioneers of the spyder mag ever had top level sponsored tournament players in mind. It was designed as an inexpensive way to turn your mech mag into fast and reliable e-marker. It has exceeded every one of its users expectations.

And what's this about cobbled? Are we talking aobut shoes or mags.

That's what I meant. Not that the Spydermag is a better choice, just a cheaper one. It isn't intended to be a mod for tourny players. You don't see more than a handful of tourny teams using mags anyways. It's very cheap for what you get. You won't get a prestigious name, but it will perform very well and it comes very close to the devilmag at a fraction of the price.