AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
On the theory of anyone saying they can shoot 99BPS...
Prove it... legal trigger pulls, with the camera stationed to see your trigger pulls and releases and sound graph analysis linking those trigger pulls to the marker firing. Must be with paint. Must be able to see each trigger pull and release. Must be no more than one shot per pull and release of teh trigger. 15BPS sustained for 10 seconds - $20 by paypal to the first person who meets those requirements - I'm excluding Z-man and RRfireblade, who I have this sad suspicion are the only two people on this board that can come close to sustaining 15BPS.
Think of an engine going 1000 RPM - thats many car engines at a touch above idle. Now pick out something on that engine, a fan blade for instance - thats turning at roughly 16 revolutions per second.. you honestly think your fingers are moving that quickly? Better yet, pick out something like an idler pulley, put a big yellow line on it and watch it go around, its smaller like your finger walking a trigger, still think your shooting that fast?
That type of help?
Edit: Take a Shocker in rebound mode - FAST right. Over a chrono I have measured them at 13 to 14BPS... no faster.
Most people when they tell you there BPS divide by 2 and you might be close. Balls fall naturally at roughly 8BPS btw... drop some and see how quick that is. I expect most people in paintball actually shoot at about 7BPS in true semi modes.
VERY WELL SAID. Thank you.
Here is a funny and related story. Everyone that sees my Spydermag video (but does not read the post) comments on how fast it's ripping. But if I tell someone my spydermag has hit 14 bps (for 1 sec) they're like, "That's slow. I can do that with my mech mag." Then when I tell them that I can only hit 15 to 16 (not sustained) bps on my Alias, they say that I must be slow. Funny how no one on the receiveing end of that has ever said that to me.
Just goes to prove, most people have no idea how fast they actually shoot or how fast 14 bps really is.
Bryan
Phantom Regiment
Team Mag Daddies
CPPA Member
Sponsored by Paintball Quest
Primary Marker: Black Alias
Secondary Marker: XSF SpyderMag
X-Valved (of course) with Level X and ULT
Black Center Feed ULE with Halo B
Logic milled rail, Evil Pipe kit
68/4500 CrossFire @ 850 PSI
This thread has gotten me REALLY interested in tonybhall and his spydermag mod things...
I shall now ponder
Hey,
Check out my thread over on PBN. It has Pics, vids and instructions. And let me know if you have any questions or need any help. Not looking to make any money off of you, just like to help mag people. Good Luck.
Anyone think I should post that stuff here on AO?
Bryan
Phantom Regiment
Team Mag Daddies
CPPA Member
Sponsored by Paintball Quest
Primary Marker: Black Alias
Secondary Marker: XSF SpyderMag
X-Valved (of course) with Level X and ULT
Black Center Feed ULE with Halo B
Logic milled rail, Evil Pipe kit
68/4500 CrossFire @ 850 PSI
Amusing how many people shoot 15BPS + until you ask for proof, offer a wager, etc. Then it becomes amazing how many people technologically cannot provide it, or they meant 15BPS for two balls... or
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
What, I can hit 17bps for a couple shots. It's not that hard. But it is hard to sustain that legally (for me). Other people are faster on the trigger. I'm not a god or anything. I just said that I can hit 17bps on a light/short trigger. I can sustain 12-13bps. That is pretty slow though. I know I'm slow, I never said I was the god of rippingness. I admit that I do need to work on it.
And geez, sorry for not owning a digital vid camera.
When i get my spydermag, ill make a vid of me trying to hold up as high a constant speed as possible. I know i can sustain 15 bps for at least a few seconds, but probably not for 10. My fingers are just too tired by then.
I believe that some spydermags have trouble reliably tripping the sear, but that's most likely error on behalf of the person who made it. The devilmag is a great looking frame actually built for the mag, and the spyder is an at-home modified frame to fit a spyder.
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