the industry is depending on you! how many bps?

[UTDragun]

i say as long as it no bounce semi auto...then i think it shouldnt be caped....

i agree, but it will only work in a world with a ton of patience. Its just to much of a hassle to enforce. It is sad, but they it should be

[hitech]

[CoolHand]

Er....wrong, the warp feeds faster than some of the early Halos. And it feeds far more consistently.

Maybe for four or five balls. But once that spindle is empty, its gotta wait for balls to get to it.

You can't out run gravity. No matter how cool the gadget is, if it depends on gravity at any point it is going to be capped at or around 12-13 bps in actual practice.

Saying the warp can out run gravity when fed from a gravity loader is like saying that you shot 40bps by measuring the shortest time between two shots. Sure, its true, technically. But in practice you will find that it is not the case.

[matt-o]

i would say 13bps true semi but its never gonna happen, this game thrives or dies based on how much money is spent on paint.

[ICP]

and that is the reason I believe they won't go to a cap anytime soon. The more people shoot, the more they spend on outrageous tourny paint prices.

[ColdFuzion]

I put 12, but it should be 13 (There was no 13 on the poll). At 13 BPS, there's 6 inches of space between the shots. Can you dodge that? Not unless you're an olympic runner or just flat out crazy...

-Cold

[firebanex]

I voted for 5. make them go back to Stock Class play. Be more intresting to watch. And a truer showcase of skills.

Yes yes very good idea.

I voted ulimited SEMI ONLY! hey if you can shoot fast in legal semi then go for it. it does take a bit of skill and practice to shoot fast on a legal semi, I am proud to say that I can hit 12-14 in a bursts on a buddy of mines dark timmy (debounce set to 25). I don't want to be forced slower when it has taken me a while to atain that speed. when i first started I could not walk a trigger faster than about 10, now after a while i can do 12-14 depending on the set up.

till then i'll just use my phantom and one ball everyone.

[VFX_Fenix]

I put 12, but it should be 13 (There was no 13 on the poll). At 13 BPS, there's 6 inches of space between the shots. Can you dodge that? Not unless you're an olympic runner or just flat out crazy...

-Cold

Umm... you mean 21 to 23 feet (at 13bps)? At 10bps with a muzzle velocity between 280 and 300 fps there's a span of 28 to 30 feet between balls. In the time it takes for a ball to fall into a chamber of a marker the ball previously fired is already something like 18" down range.

[FreakBaller12]

and that is the reason I believe they won't go to a cap anytime soon. The more people shoot, the more they spend on outrageous tourny paint prices.

There's a 15 bps cap on alot of tournaments nowadays

[50 cal]

i would say 13bps true semi but its never gonna happen, this game thrives or dies based on how much money is spent on paint.

And right there ladies and gentleman is the root of the problem. Paint sales. The promoters want those case sales. If they can't sell each person a dozen cases of paint and rape them in the mean time, they cry crocodile tears.

When a few of us started MSPA a bunch of years ago, it was agreed that it was to be BYOP. A few of the big name field owners tried to vote out BYOP and make it field only paint. MSPA was started as a way for once a month a bunch of teams could get together and have a good time and not have to be raped by the field owner on paint sales.

A few series have BYOP and luckily we can get paint pretty reasonably. Hopefully it can stay that way.

[VFX_Fenix]

Does anyone actually remember when the industry placed a self imposed limit on electro ROF's at 13bps? Ah... those were the days... then someone got an itchy trigger finger and said "hey, I can shoot faster than THAT!!!" and made a board that could.... yeah, that lasted all of ummm... 2 years?

[paintman1234]

other... Stock class!