Female Paintball "Stars": The Ultimate Poser?

[mandatory]

well my girlfriends first games were this weekend at AO norcal vs socal. she had a wonderfull time and was even bunkered twice on the airball field by one of those tourny guys there. she hung in there. As for a competitive female team not existing, this idea runs rampit through all sports. why cant women preform as well as men? I dont know. maybe it has something to do with how we call women who get really into sports or fisycally agressive "tomboys" or "dykes". its a double edge sword, they have to give up their gender, so to speak, to achieve the male level, only to be ridiculed for being masculine. I think you should accept them for who they are and if they desire to get better and excell in a male dominated sport, they deserve all our support. why segrigate the game. dont you want to see more women at the field?..I sure do.

[Codekevin0403]

To give you my honest opinion, and this is in no way trying to be offensive to anybody, but i really think that the girls in paintball are just objects in the game to try and attract the main customers-the hard-headed guys who wanna get shot to show off the welts to their friends-so they can get some good buisness. Anyways, anyone see a bad-looking girl as a spokesperson? No way, no how, they won't get no kathy-bates-look-a-like to show off their equipment

[Target Practice]

CodeMA....

You're just proving our point.

"Female teams CAN'...then why don't they? Why aren't they? Why are they put together for across the country, and not a team of people who you know, knew each other beforehand. If they're so dedicated to the sport, why aren't they making the sacrifices their male counterparts are, and practicing every weekend?

"When they ask why they took an extra 10 to the back as they walked off, tell them its because your a girl and didnt know any better "

And reenforce what they think and make myself look like a 'tard? I don't think so.

I respect myself far too much for that. And I respect the other girls who just want to come out to the field, and not get comments like "I hope she's smarter than that other dumb bit..."

"If girls were dedicated, could get the coaching and experiance/pratice with GOOD players/teams, had a lot of the on/off feild pratices as upper level players, they to would be just as good as any of the "good" players teams...."

Why aren't they dedicated? Why don't these untapped resources of talent have people wanting to coach them? Why don't they practice? Because they forgot whey they started playing paintball, because they got too caught up in their own hype.

Kevmaster- Oh yeah. Nike doesn't sponsor players who suck. They sponsor good teams/players who will attatch a good name and image to Nike. That's why when professional players screw up, they tend to lose their sponsorships.


All of these posts are just proving our point...


Female teams CAN compete, and CAN whoop arse. Why don't they? And why, even if they don't, do they get the recognition that hard-working male teams do...And then run with it? And then do nothing with the respect they do get-- like playing hard and proving people right.


Ninja edit: Whoops, this is TSC, sorry 'bout that.

[Carbon]

cathy bates :rofl:

[tsc]

well my girlfriends first games were this weekend at AO norcal vs socal. she had a wonderfull time and was even bunkered twice on the airball field by one of those tourny guys there. she hung in there. As for a competitive female team not existing, this idea runs rampit through all sports. why cant women preform as well as men? I dont know. maybe it has something to do with how we call women who get really into sports or fisycally agressive "tomboys" or "dykes". its a double edge sword, they have to give up their gender, so to speak, to achieve the male level, only to be ridiculed for being masculine. I think you should accept them for who they are and if they desire to get better and excell in a male dominated sport, they deserve all our support. why segrigate the game. dont you want to see more women at the field?..I sure do.

They don't excel in the game. They go to the field to get noticed. And women in paintball can compete at the same level as men-- paintball is the one sport, outside of shooting sports maybe, in which gender differences...don't mean jack.

We want to see good female teams, but all we see is the crappy teams who pretend to play because it gets them money and attention.

Slightly tangental question: Did your girlfriend ask you to take her to play, or did you ask her to?

To give you my honest opinion, and this is in no way trying to be offensive to anybody, but i really think that the girls in paintball are just objects in the game to try and attract the main customers-the hard-headed guys who wanna get shot to show off the welts to their friends-so they can get some good buisness. Anyways, anyone see a bad-looking girl as a spokesperson? No way, no how, they won't get no kathy-bates-look-a-like to show off their equipment

Yep. And this would be fine-- if they just came out and said it. But the veneer of a 'real paintball player' gets real old, real fast. If your all-girl team is full of real players...prove it. Go win some tourneys...or even games! Don't have a merchandise line. Spend the time they're asking you to spend at photoshoots practicing instead. Show some desire to win on the field, and get a little dirty. Don't act like a princess just because you can.

[LudavicoSoldier]

My GF asked ME if she could come play. Guess she wanted to get a piece of my other GF, the paintball gun.

[Target Practice]

My GF asked ME if she could come play. Guess she wanted to get a piece of my other GF, the paintball gun.

You know, I'd be interested in knowing her motives. Perhaps you could ask her? You have to tell her to be PERFECTLY honest. If she said she wanted to go to spend time with you, or take part in something that you take part in, that's fine. If she's doing it to get attention from you or anyone else, then you can't say that she wanted to play for the sport of it.

[CodeMA]

TSC...."Why aren't they? Why are they put together for across the country, and not a team of people who you know, knew each other beforehand. If they're so dedicated to the sport, why aren't they making the sacrifices their male counterparts are, and practicing every weekend? "

EXACTLY MY POINT.... thats what Im trying to say...thats whats missing, if MORE female/co-ed teams were like that, there wouldnt be that stigma, would there? No because there would be more truely good teams...

"When they ask why they took an extra 10 to the back as they walked off, tell them its because your a girl and didnt know any better "

The part about 'because your a girl' was scarcasim... my bad, could have been better worded.... but a few extra balls to prove a point... not generally a problem, deffently wouldnt make you look like a tard... if there cheating... they deserve a few extra... I not saying it should be a habit, but it happens... no ones going to crusify you for doing some cheater nasty....

"Why aren't they dedicated? Why don't these untapped resources of talent have people wanting to coach them? Why don't they practice? Because they forgot whey they started playing paintball, because they got too caught up in their own hype. "

Like I said, some dont care...thats the problem... Heck, rumor has it that some of the Femmes will be poseing for playboy, so ya... its groups like them that are hype, but the ones that truely want to ball, and be dedictated will find a way.... The problem is finding enough...shrugs, give it time there...

[LudavicoSoldier]

You know, I'd be interested in knowing her motives. Perhaps you could ask her? You have to tell her to be PERFECTLY honest. If she said she wanted to go to spend time with you, or take part in something that you take part in, that's fine. If she's doing it to get attention from you or anyone else, then you can't say that she wanted to play for the sport of it.

She had actually been asking to go for a couple months before I took her to go play. She wants to know when my spring opener is going to be, so she can come along and shoot some faces!

EDIT - She cussed me out for trading off my Logic ULE Mag for a Race Lotus Cocker. Apparently she really liked the light little beast!

[Athius]

Weird Clare hasn't said anything on this thread.


For me they are just spoke models but i dunno never played with any of them. But i have seen Feme Fatales games and man those women always get their asses kicked.

[Number13]

tsc: I'd be glad to play you some day.

When Badger Ballers here at UW-Madison first started, we had a coed team and it went well. There was no slack or preference for gender--it was who wanted to play and did what it takes to improve. Immature boys need to stop imagining their competition naked and focus on their game instead.

I'd love to see a tourney circuit that requires teams to be coed open up. Or at least local leagues.

[Kevmaster]

Nike doesnt sponsor players who suck.

If it would help nike's image to sponsor players who suck, I bet they would. If they would sell more shoes because of it, I bet they would in a heartbeat. Thats the difference between paintball and basketball. A team of guys who suck in bb dont get sponsored because they suck and nike wont make money. A team of girls, who--in YOUR opinion--suck will because nike (or the paintball equivlent) will make money. its all about the moeny to the sposnors.

now, i agree that if these girls suck (i dont know if they do) theny they may not deserve to be in the league and the leage should look to put some standards in on what level teams have to play at.

[Target Practice]

in YOUR opinion

Look, crappy paintball is crappy paintball is crappy paintball. There's no two ways about it.

If they want to be a promo team, great. If they want to be a legitimate team, awesome. They are doing the former now, and calling it the latter.

This is the problem.

And now, errands.

[Cameo]

Sarah,
Go you.. You have a love for the sport. Catch that wave and ride the mutha till it dies. I understand and respect your viewpoint. You have passion...

I just choose to play for a different reason... Life is way to short, I want to enjoy myself as much as possible while I can... right now I choose paint ball as my enjoyment. I am NOT out there to harm people or be cocky or get mean about the sport. I am out there because I love people. I love to watch them, I love to listen to thier stories, most of all I like to learn from them. Yes attention is great, everyone loves attention, it makes the world go round. I like giving as well as recieving. That is JUST ME.

I did not start paint ball thinking I could get anywhere. I started cause a silly group of guys harassed me two years in a row and I thought to myslef "these people could be great fun to hang with". You know what, I was right, they are great guys to hang with and my life has been blessed just being around them.

Not every person that plays a sport does it to be the best or get noticed, that is most certainley not my goal here. I doubt if I will have what it takes to get on a "real" team (other then owners group that is). But hey, that does not bother me because my purpose is being served. I am being entertained by this sport and the people who play it. I am learning so much and enhancing my life. What more could I ask for??
~steph

[tsc]

What wave? The wave that's trying to beat me down at every step? There is no wave for female paintball players.

It's not JUST YOU that does this for attention. It's the vast majority of females in paintball. Period. And they screw things up for the rest of us.

Not every person that plays a sport does it to be the best or get noticed, that is most certainley not my goal here.

guy asks me: "what in the world would compell you to play a sport such as paintball"
I answer: "20 guys to every chick"
so in my case, yes sir you are correct.

(snip)
Females tend to be driven by attention, that is why they dress they way they do and act the way they do, and apperently that is why they play the way they do..Just how we are in my opinion.
As long as guys are giving the girls attention, the girls will accept it.

That most certainly IS your goal. Quit trying to backpeddle, it's unbecoming. And by the way? There is no "we" there is you and them. Don't generalize, I am tired of being trivialized.