VOTe may gotm

[CrimsonGhost]

Rk- Hey man , thanks for showing class and grace through this thing.To bad we can't judge those from a pic.

[BigEvil]

Guys - you all need to get over yourselves... there will be another contest in ..hmmm... like a day. THere is wayyyy to much BS with this. SO because everyone complaining that its all mags this month, then next month it will have to be all IONS or something. Then the cycle of BS will begin anew.

Scrap this mess and just forget it. I

[yakitori]

I didnt quote you crimson. I read someone say that mags are more unique, so I made that statement. I dont question your knowledge of guns. I apologize if it came across that way. I didnt just make the statement because of the GOTM thread. The AGD purists that I am referring to have made comments in every pic post about other guns. Particularly the Ion. Im not trying to start an Ion/mag thing here. Im just making a point.

In many other posts it seems that a few ppl are having the attitude that "this is an AGD website....it should be for mags ONLY" yada yada yada. Well, its offensive to me cause I was a loyal AGD guy, but ive since moved on to other guns. I still like mags, and I dont feel that deserves ppl being an arse to me *not here, not now, but have been in general lately* just cause I dont have a mag now. When I had my Karta emag.....it was all "OOOh yak, your mag is sooooo nice.....can I kiss your feet some".....now its "shutup yak, you own an Ion and you have no place here cause this is a mag site" I am beggining to see a side of the AO family that I didnt notice when I was a mag owner. They are turning out to be just like most other groups of a certain gun "family". They bash most stuff not related to AGD, and they consider ppl that dont currently own a mag as "not having a clue about mags"

I now see that side of the AO family, and Im disappointed. I guess thats my point of view. on it.

I still like MOST ppl on AO.

I too agree that GOTM threads should be judged by ALL. Just make a poll. EVERYONE votes. The highest percentages will be your top 5. That helps w/ removing bias on the judges behalf because they are AGD loyalists.

[Chronobreak]

guess we could let everyone vote on every gun..

however it is alot mroe work than you know...

copying links then isnerting php code and doing the poll setup

takes a good hr or more

not to mention all the whining that i get for a thank you

also yak, sounds like your displeasure is with a few individuals on AO that arent even judges.

most, ifnot all of the judges own or have owned a plethora of guns, including cockers,mags bushies, blah blah blah, vikings too? not sure

fact is most ifnot all of us are more than qualified to pick the best guns unbiased, but the "best" gun is different to everyone

might also want to re-read what the judging criteria is.

as for us only voting mags..purely coincidence and since like 90%+ are mags i dont think we had much of a choice.

if you have an ion your not less important as a member...however stil relaise this forum is for mag owners group...but your right we shouldnt be gun discriminatory, and i dont think we are.

as i have said atleast half a dozen times now, if anyonwe with over 100+ or so post over 17 and seems knowledgeable(and can reply withi 24hrs for judging) they may judge

i had 7 judges thins month and only recived 4 judge votes and each judge didnt pick all 5 guns.

we had about 12 guns that had one vote(so almsot each gun got one vote) and the top 5 all had like 2 and one had 3 votes.



the last gotm fell apart becuase judges were..

i would hardly consider any of the judges"agd loyalist" we know what a good gun is and whta has had alot of work and time into it and what hasnt....with that having been said...wellt ry things diff this month maybe, if we do dont and get over it.

i went as long as i could without replying to the stupid" judges suck" or "why wasnt so and so picked"

the last voting system was by far inferior(3 categories voted upon by like 10 judges with no AO vote at all)

seems like some people will always find soemthing to complain about

[yakitori]

guess we could let everyone vote on every gun..

however it is alot mroe work than you know...

copying links then isnerting php code and doing the poll setup

takes a good hr or more

not to mention all the whining that i get for a thank you

also yak, sounds like your displeasure is with a few individuals on AO that arent even judges.

most, ifnot all of the judges own or have owned a plethora of guns, including cockers,mags bushies, blah blah blah, vikings too? not sure

fact is most ifnot all of us are more than qualified to pick the best guns unbiased, but the "best" gun is different to everyone

might also want to re-read what the judging criteria is.

as for us only voting mags..purely coincidence and since like 90%+ are mags i dont think we had much of a choice.

if you have an ion your not less important as a member...however stil relaise this forum is for mag owners group...but your right we shouldnt be gun discriminatory, and i dont think we are.

as i have said atleast half a dozen times now, if anyonwe with over 100+ or so post over 17 and seems knowledgeable(and can reply withi 24hrs for judging) they may judge

i had 7 judges thins month and only recived 4 judge votes and each judge didnt pick all 5 guns.

we had about 12 guns that had one vote(so almsot each gun got one vote) and the top 5 all had like 2 and one had 3 votes.



the last gotm fell apart becuase judges were..

i would hardly consider any of the judges"agd loyalist" we know what a good gun is and whta has had alot of work and time into it and what hasnt....with that having been said...wellt ry things diff this month maybe, if we do dont and get over it.

i went as long as i could without replying to the stupid" judges suck" or "why wasnt so and so picked"

the last voting system was by far inferior(3 categories voted upon by like 10 judges with no AO vote at all)

seems like some people will always find soemthing to complain about

Cool. I dont mean for the ppl that arent judgemental on what others shoot to think my comments are directed at them. I make comments sometimes, and I expect the ppl that ARE like the person I describe them as to know I was talking to THEM. I dont make blanket statements that apply to all. Sometimes I just assume they will know who I am talking to. .

As for the judging contest. You can start the GOTM thread as a Poll w/ 0 entries. As ppl enter thier pics, you can edit the poll to include thier gun. It can be in the same order as the ppl that posted pics for their entry. If the poll has a limit of 10, then another one can be started as GOTM part 2. Usually there arent a ton of entries. They can be limited to ONE entry per member. At the deadline the GOTM threads will no longer be taking entries. The poll will display each entry. there will be one week after the end date for everyone to vote. The Percentages will give the top 5. Thats it. NO FINALS. That will limit having to go through the trouble of resizing pics, and starting a whole new thread w/ 5 finalists. There are none. The higest percentages win. Thats it, no more voting.

[MicroMiniMe]

Well then you have to validate votes. Make sure none are bogus users multiple account junk. Judges just seems more official.

[Chronobreak]

Well then you have to validate votes. Make sure none are bogus users multiple account junk. Judges just seems more official.

gues the reply button is the quote button now

when did that change..or am i losing it?

that and then some people wil complain there wasnt =time to vote on all entries

making a thread every 10 post, and keeping them upped and blah balh confusin blah blah

not happening blah blah

[rkjunior303]

gues the reply button is the quote button now

when did that change..or am i losing it?

that and then some people wil complain there wasnt =time to vote on all entries

making a thread every 10 post, and keeping them upped and blah balh confusin blah blah

not happening blah blah

huh?

A week is more than plenty of time to vote.

Making a thread and keeping them upped? What are you talking about?

[Chronobreak]

huh?

A week is more than plenty of time to vote.

Making a thread and keeping them upped? What are you talking about?

the way yak would liek gotm ran

we would add to a thread..when it has 10 entires we make another thrad to vote

2-4 threads is tooo much for gotm(and the mods wont have it either trust me)

this would be mass confusion,clutter, and too hard to oversee for ANYONE!

[yakitori]

I hardly see anymore than 20 or so guns for GOTM. That is why I said ONE entry per member. PPl cant be putting up 3 of their guns. They have pick the one they feel will have the best chance.

And once the GOTM thread has ended as for entries, the voting begins. Everyone will have the same amount of time as far as voting goes. Its a lot easier than PMing judges, then some judges dont follow thru. Then only 3 judges vote for the top 5. I think giving everyone a week to select who they want is better than keeping 5 judges in the loop. You cant depend on judges, but you can depend on votes.

And you are already making 2 threads anyway. First the entries, then the judging the top 5. Why not have GOTM part 1 and 2. I only recommended 10 entries because I dont know how many the limit is on the poll options. It may be 15. In that case 2 threads would cover 30 guns. That should be easier than what is being done now. And most of all, EVERYONEs opinion counts.

As for multiple accounts. Thats stupid. Anyone that will go through the trouble to make multiple accounts just to win GOTM will be obvious. I dont see an Ion getting 100 votes over any of the other guns. Cheating is obvious. And it leads to a disqualification. Another rule would be that nobody can solicit votes on other sites. Im sure there are enough ppl here that visit other sites to know if something like that is going on. Then they will come forward. ANY USER can click on the poll, and find out WHO voted for what. IF there is a Large number of votes from ppl that have only one post, or registered that day. The gun will be excluded on grounds of cheating. There is just no way that 20 new users are going to vote for so and so's avg. gun. And it doesnt take one person to find out if its happening. I can do it, you can do it.....ANY user can find out who voted for what. That is one great feature of the poll options. Click on the percentages, it gives the usernames of the gun they voted under. Finding cheaters will be easy.

I still think it is most unbiased, fair way to conduct it.

But, you the ppl "still" insist on there being 5 judges that pick guns out of the entries, then so be it.

[FlawleZ]

Blah. The arguing is senseless guys. Let's just make suggestions and listen to other's opinions without being too harsh or taking anything personal. And let's just leave it at that.

On another note, I was just going to thank everyone who voted for my Classic RT. I love that gun to death and I'm glad that others see it as an attractive gun as I do.

Looks like you're going to have me beat Phantom. Congrats! You have a nice E-Mag.

[Jakedubbleya]

you guys SERIOUSLY want to call it mag of the month? that would blow. Itd be retarded without things like custom pumps and stuff. So what if they pick mags, they picked mags. Dont make it retarded and take away all chances of voting for something cool and original.

[Phantom_Mag]

LOL, sorry for posting, But i just lost a ton of respect for Yak. Your arguements are weak and repetative. Need i say more..i shall not. Thanks for the Votes.

[fullofpaint]

I think my 98c should have made it onto the list....... j/k

[yakitori]

LOL, sorry for posting, But i just lost a ton of respect for Yak. Your arguements are weak and repetative. Need i say more..i shall not. Thanks for the Votes.

whatever. I even said that yours was the nicest out of the guns selected.