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  • BD_Paintball
    UW-Whitewater Paintball
    • May 2003
    • 2268

    #46
    Originally posted by A-Tach-One
    For the ones who think the Mag is not high end, please explain why it is not, besides not being state of the art. How is something that is not State of the Art, mean that it is not high end anyway? Are restored classic custom vehicles low end? Thanks guys.
    they are not high end b/c they can not compete with the rof that true high end markers have. they are overpriced and they also weigh alot. when i think of a high end marker i think if weight, looks and performance. mags weigh alot, dont look that good and are not that fast( yes e-mags, x-mags and LEGAL mech mags are not that fast) with TONS of kick. shoot a high end timmy, DM5, EGO, or Speed and you will feel and notice a huge differenct. they are very good for the rec player or a player who playes in a few tournies but if you want to be serious and play lots of tournies then you need a high end gun to keep up and a mag will not do that.

    edit: maybe the new Devil mag can b/c it has the Pred board in it.
    My Guns: chrome and black pump mag
    -black 2k sniper 2
    -32* vision imp with ups, ECS, reloader B
    -was'd imp w/ i-frame and all ups, warp feed
    -88/3000 and 48/3000 tanks

    AIM: Paintball1084

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    • A-Tach-One
      I'm done!!!!

      • Mar 2005
      • 2204

      #47
      Originally posted by BD_Paintball
      they are not high end b/c they can not compete with the rof that true high end markers have. they are overpriced and they also weigh alot. when i think of a high end marker i think if weight, looks and performance. mags weigh alot, dont look that good and are not that fast( yes e-mags, x-mags and LEGAL mech mags are not that fast) with TONS of kick. shoot a high end timmy, DM5, EGO, or Speed and you will feel and notice a huge differenct. they are very good for the rec player or a player who playes in a few tournies but if you want to be serious and play lots of tournies then you need a high end gun to keep up and a mag will not do that.

      edit: maybe the new Devil mag can b/c it has the Pred board in it.
      Sounds like your talking about the original emags that came out. Sure an Emag that is non ULE'd, without an xvalve, 1.34 software, and incorrectly tuned couldn't compete. Hold a ULE'd emag with xvavle and a predator board in it that is tuned correctly. It is light, fast, and little kick. I can say this because I own 2. Price wise, how much is your high end Timmy? Maybe not so far off from and Emag with upgrades. As far as looks, that is up to the individual.
      Last edited by A-Tach-One; 06-29-2005, 10:17 AM.

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      • RRfireblade

        • Jun 2002
        • 5103

        #48
        I wouldn't sweat it.

        It all comes down to each persons perception and your not going to change that. If you think that they are then they are to you. If someone else doesn't, then they aren't to them.

        Either way it doesn't have any effect in the material world. At this point it's just an arguement over hurt feelings, not worth the effort.

        GO PLAY AND PROVE YOUR POINTS ON THE FEILD!!!!!!!!!!!!
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        • Mind'sEye
          XT00157
          • May 2005
          • 186

          #49
          Originally posted by RRfireblade
          I wouldn't sweat it.

          It all comes down to each persons perception and your not going to change that. If you think that they are then they are to you. If someone else doesn't, then they aren't to them.

          Either way it doesn't have any effect in the material world. At this point it's just an arguement over hurt feelings, not worth the effort.
          Originally posted by BD_Paintball
          they are not high end b/c they can not compete with the rof that true high end markers have. they are overpriced and they also weigh alot. when i think of a high end marker i think if weight, looks and performance. mags weigh alot, dont look that good and are not that fast( yes e-mags, x-mags and LEGAL mech mags are not that fast) with TONS of kick. shoot a high end timmy, DM5, EGO, or Speed and you will feel and notice a huge differenct. they are very good for the rec player or a player who playes in a few tournies but if you want to be serious and play lots of tournies then you need a high end gun to keep up and a mag will not do that.

          edit: maybe the new Devil mag can b/c it has the Pred board in it.

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          • RRfireblade

            • Jun 2002
            • 5103

            #50
            Originally posted by Mind'sEye
            Since I count the Fireblade trigger as one of those upgrades I would think that this could indeed have an affect on the material world.

            Well there's no question that's a High End trigger.
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            • WARPED1
              I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
              • Nov 2001
              • 7458

              #51
              Originally posted by E==Mag MAN
              stop humping agd's leg and get over it, your mag is not as high end as other markers now.

              Peace
              Thomas
              I'M NOT THE ONLY ON!



              Disclaimer: I am not bashing mags, I just don't think they're high end either, they are a "niche" gun. AO is thier niche.
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              • deadbox101
                Registered User
                • Sep 2004
                • 213

                #52
                Originally posted by BD_Paintball
                they are not high end b/c they can not compete with the rof that true high end markers have. they are overpriced and they also weigh alot. when i think of a high end marker i think if weight, looks and performance. mags weigh alot, dont look that good and are not that fast( yes e-mags, x-mags and LEGAL mech mags are not that fast) with TONS of kick. shoot a high end timmy, DM5, EGO, or Speed and you will feel and notice a huge differenct. they are very good for the rec player or a player who playes in a few tournies but if you want to be serious and play lots of tournies then you need a high end gun to keep up and a mag will not do that.

                edit: maybe the new Devil mag can b/c it has the Pred board in it.

                Betcha my mag is lighter then your impulse.

                E/X Mags are no longer state of the art or on the cutting edge. Mech mags however, are great and i love mine.(within the realm of mechanicals of course.)

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                • BD_Paintball
                  UW-Whitewater Paintball
                  • May 2003
                  • 2268

                  #53
                  Originally posted by deadbox101
                  Betcha my mag is lighter then your impulse.
                  9 pounds with full 88ci tank, 14in pipe kit, gun and reloader b. i had a all ule mag and my imp is lighter.
                  Last edited by BD_Paintball; 06-29-2005, 03:27 PM.
                  My Guns: chrome and black pump mag
                  -black 2k sniper 2
                  -32* vision imp with ups, ECS, reloader B
                  -was'd imp w/ i-frame and all ups, warp feed
                  -88/3000 and 48/3000 tanks

                  AIM: Paintball1084

                  my feedback

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                  • personman

                    #54
                    I'm sorry but impulses are heavier than a mag. I dont care how much you like your impulse, facts are facts.

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                    • WARPED1
                      I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 7458

                      #55
                      Originally posted by deadbox101
                      Betcha my mag is lighter then your impulse.

                      E/X Mags are no longer state of the art or on the cutting edge. Mech mags however, are great and i love mine.(within the realm of mechanicals of course.)
                      I concur. If I was going all mech again and was playing strictly rec/scenario, I'd just buy a nice Classic mag and up it a little, ULE body, Intelliframe, nice drop.
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                      • Magz_rule
                        Magz = the best
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 553

                        #56
                        Originally posted by MonsterMag
                        Have you ever shot a well tuned emag? They ripp if you know how to use them. I have been acused of ramping when I was using emode. So a $600 marker that will last a few life times or a marker made of composite plastic and cheap aluminum.
                        I consider anything over $500 a high end marker , dont listen to your friends.

                        Also if you look here you notice how you are in the "high end mech guns" what markers do you see? Mags

                        and here The Emag

                        Ive owned and shot many tuned E/X mags. Id shoot an Ion over either one any day.

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                        • buzzboy
                          Emo grass cuts inself
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 1322

                          #57
                          Originally posted by personman
                          I'd say a nice mag is mid-high end. In my opinion it tops every other marker out there, but I seriously doubt anyone else would share the same opinion. I see mags as almost perfect. In my opinion the only thing they lack is efficiency but that doesnt really bother me.

                          To each his own, and if he doesnt think mags are high end then leave him alone. Everyone has their own opinions.
                          I agree completly. Mags are plenty high end. They are fast, potentially walkable, light(with ule), can be electro(emag/xmag/hyperframe/devilmag), superfast recharge and they have the fastest bps I have ever seen or heard of without chopping(zak vetter, q-loader test, 34.5 bps).

                          Oh yeah. That kid has no clue when he says that a mag will get "laughed off the field.

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                          • Fallout-
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 120

                            #58
                            mags are not high end
                            but you would not be laughed off the field

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                            • deadbox101
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 213

                              #59
                              Originally posted by BD_Paintball
                              9 pounds with full 88ci tank, 14in pipe kit, gun and reloader b. i had a all ule mag and my imp is lighter.

                              you mean that brick is lighter then my marker? Im sorry if your mag weighs 9 pounds its obviously not a ule mag.

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                              • A.T.S
                                Happy To Have A Mag!
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 159

                                #60
                                Speaking of efficiency, my classic Mag is set up for co2 with a palmer stabilizer. The stabilizer is set at 450psi my Mag seams to like that pressure better than 800 PSI. so.... I can shoot deep into a tank!
                                Peace

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