AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
Not trying to invalidate your point at all. Just making a behavioral observation, that's all.
Originally posted by magman007
nick, thanks for trying to invalidate my point, but if you ask any one, i am not shooting a SP marker at the moment, and i never have. im tired of holier than thou jacaksses like dahoeb, so i am taking him down through intellectual discussion.
has anybody ever thought of changeing the actual paintball? or even changeing paintball size. i feel that as fars as markers go we have gone to far in technology its the ammo that needs changes not the marker. you can build the best gun in the world but its the ammo that really makes the difference. paintball has sacrfice speed overbeing accurate. why do i need to shoot 30 rounds to get one person out? build a better paintball thats where we need to focus our efforts. that right there will change paintball. i take accurate paintball over shooting a ton of unbalanced vary sized paintballs any day. i am surprise marker companys don't make paintballs for there own markers.
imageing a marker that gives you paint,a marker and barrel to match. that would be cool.
ok magman007.
basically what i got out of that was "it wasnt as popular so it wasn't as good..."
A viper or lamborghini hasn't sold near as much as a mustang, does that mean the mustang is a superior car? no, it doesn't. but with your logic, the mustang IS better than the lamborghini. but there is also a price difference for a reason.
from a marketing standpoint, SP destroyed aka markers.but we're not talking about marketing or the companies for that matter, we're talking about markers. design and functionality wise those sp markers weren't as good. and the time period i'm thinking of is the few years that the aka markers and the shocker/imp coexisted. so what if the imp wasn't there in until 2001. i don't see how it even matters.
also, i know very well that constistency plays a large roll in accuracy. thats one reason people put regulators on their tippmanns and spyder and run nitro.
guess what also helps determine constistency? PAINT BARREL MATCH. you can have the best reg in the world, but if you have a poor paint/barrel match your consistency will still be mediocre.
i don't know anything about the OLD (2002) viking and excal triggers, never shot them, but i do own a 2004 viking, and the stock trigger isn't all that bad at all. the 04's don't have any side play or slop at all. aka at least tried fixed that, SP never bothered spending a extra few pennies to fix their triggers and they always sucked. the viking and excal i've owned would be able to fire fast and constistently with their trigger. which was almost completely adjustable. while the impulses stock trigger only had adjustable spring tension. to this day the imp trigger is unsatisfactory.
and from a technical aspect, efficiency does matter. if marker "A" gets 2000 shots per tank and shocker "B" gets 500 shots per tank, whats that tell you? it tells you that marker "A" was probably designed better and had more thought and effort put in its design. the viking and impulse share a similar design, but for some reason one far surpasses the other in efficiency. a marker doesn't get bad efficiency because its designed with extreme precision and effort.
the fact of the matter is that the imp is not as good as a viking or excal. but with that being said, the aka markers are twice the price of an imp and were a newer design than the shocker. so whats the problem? the aka markers SHOULD be better, given their price and how they were newer.
i'm trying to reason with you magman007, if you think i'm wrong, thats perfectly fine, just say, "rob i don't agree with you" or something instead of throwing a temper tantrum and calling "people like me 'jackasses'".
if you don't want me talking to you like a forum troll then don't act like one. all i have seen you ever do is go around trash talking what everyone has to say. i don't know you and i don't know if thats just how you joke around but it comes off as awfully disrespectful.
i do apologize that my previous post did come out a little more disrespectful than i intended it to be, but i still got all my points across. from the research i've done (and experience) most of my points are based on truth and not just my opinions.
i'm done arguing this topic cause i've made all my points and it doesn't even have anything to do with this thread.
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