Element Ion Update

[yakitori]

it looks like a mag, so I dont know why everyone is complaining about it.

[Echo419]

This is what someone gets for trying to help out the paintball world...

[JimmyBeam]

it looks like a mag, so I dont know why everyone is complaining about it.

exactly. but its not a mag so it automatically gets this response.

ignorance really must be bliss.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

The trigger frame is to thin, from front to back. It's like taking a hot girl and having her go anorexic for a few months. I think that is turning some users away. Also, everything on it is designed small and thin, but there is a huge trigger guard, which throws people off a bit.

[sithos]

Hey, its alright if not everyone likes it. I've already got $17,000 worth of preorders, any more of them and I'd be going insane.


Oh. and about it being "thin" well. its lighter than the stock ion, and its metal, rather than plastic and cast alum.

3.0oz for the body
7.1oz for the frame

I need to get a total marker weight, but the post office might be upset if i brought an assembled marker inside to borrow their digital scale.

[Lohman446]

The "need" to show off the black tube underneath kills the flow of that marker... cover it it might look better, but there are other issues. That to me though is the stand out issue, what is with the obsession to show that the only purpose of that body is to hold in detents...

[nt2004]

Whenever someone doesnt like ion bodies onhere or whatever, you guys (jimmybeam, yakatori, etc.) accuse them of disliking it because "it isnt AGD." Most people in here dont like it because they think it is ugly, so stop playing that stupid card. If we dont hump the ion's leg, you accuse us of humping AGD's leg.

I just reread the posts again Where does anyone make any mention of not liking it because its not AGD? Let them express their opinion instead of chewing them out for not sharing yours

[sithos]

ok now. atleast be civil about it. I'm not mad that some people don't like it. I had to make a LOT of changes from the original design, because 5th axis is just too darn expensive.

[ojhspyro89]

That looks awsome, but hey, its still an ion....

[Lohman446]

Whenever someone doesnt like ion bodies onhere or whatever, you guys (jimmybeam, yakatori, etc.) accuse them of disliking it because "it isnt AGD." Most people in here dont like it because they think it is ugly, so stop playing that stupid card. If we dont hump the ion's leg, you accuse us of humping AGD's leg.

I just reread the posts again Where does anyone make any mention of not liking it because its not AGD? Let them express their opinion instead of chewing them out for not sharing yours

I don't know.. I'm hearing about 17K of preorders for a prototype that is still changing... are these paid pre orders or 17K of expressed online interest. Because I'm betting with no prototype, no access to those machine facilities, that I could get that. Didn't we learn the lesson online interest means little to nothing for sales

[nt2004]

I don't know.. I'm hearing about 17K of preorders for a prototype that is still changing... are these paid pre orders or 17K of expressed online interest. Because I'm betting with no prototype, no access to those machine facilities, that I could get that. Didn't we learn the lesson online interest means little to nothing for sales

you confused me just now by quoting me.

[MadPSIence]

damn man, if it wasn't an ion I would be all over it. you guys need to make stuff for other guns that cool!

[Lohman446]

you confused me just now by quoting me.

I'm good at that :P I was agreeing with you, but the comment was made on here that your wrong.. because he has "17,000 dollars in preorders" as if thats some great indication that this new thing is great and it doesn't matter the comments here.

People.. if you cant take honest criticism, don't post here... AO likes to criticize, but telling you that thing is ugly as its presented now is not due to love of AGD or a hatred of SP (I like SP) its because.. well that thing is ugly

[nt2004]

I'm good at that :P I was agreeing with you, but the comment was made on here that your wrong.. because he has "17,000 dollars in preorders" as if thats some great indication that this new thing is great and it doesn't matter the comments here.

People.. if you cant take honest criticism, don't post here... AO likes to criticize, but telling you that thing is ugly as its presented now is not due to love of AGD or a hatred of SP (I like SP) its because.. well that thing is ugly

Yeah i had to delete a post I made in response because I interpereted your post completely wrong. Theres something about a lack of sleep and sarcasm that just doesnt mix well

[MonsterMag]