Is Agd Going Bankrupt?

[Resurection]

But I still think it is very strange for a so-called 'alive & kikin' company to have what seems a radio-silence around their webstores...

Well to speak on behalf of Tuna, he just experience a server failure and his website is down, but not out. If you browse over to www.tunamart.com you can email him from there. The new site and store will be up soon.

[Muzikman]

I'm not sure what the status of AGD-UK is, but I know about a year or so ago they took over as NPS-UK (or something long those lines) so I am not sure how involved they are with AGD stuff any more.

If you need parts, call Marcia at AGD-US (I know it will be long distance) and she'll take care of you. I don't think the AGD-US web store can ship overseas.

Marcia = 1+ 847-520-7507

[phantomhitman]

Old rumor... like how AGD used to make nail guns...

So i should take the 3 shims i put in mine out? I swear I got it to go over 20 nps but couldnt hold it at that speed. I guess I need to call Zak........chronoing seems to be aproblem also

[Big'n slo]

So i should take the 3 shims i put in mine out? I swear I got it to go over 20 nps but couldnt hold it at that speed. I guess I need to call Zak........chronoing seems to be aproblem also

Your using the wrong nails!
You need MAG nails

http://www.engineersupply.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=ES928

That'll solve the chrono problem

[FromTheBack]

Ive seen this kind of thread pop up about three times or so while I've been shooting a mag and the company has seemed the same every time I read it. But I might as well toss my input in for the first time. Last year at a scenario game a group of AOers were talking with him and he said that AGD had been "in the black" for a while as far as profit was concerned. This was right before he resigned and right at the time of the FN303 killing that girl in the riot. So take it as you will.

[LONEWOLFOO1]

i think agd is doing fine i always wonder since their guns has one moveing part that the never made a gun that had a built in warp feed, or a built in q loader they can easliy make a m4,mp5,p90 look alike there parts ae top notch. i feel they should sta focus in the scenrio market. it is a growing market. its actually takeing some of the fire out of airsoft. i would love to see agd make a m4 powered by agd. becusethose oher companys use the spyder technology.

[Aslan]

Well-Said

JoAnn who worked here for what, 13 years?, said that this rumor had been going on almost as long as she had been here. I've been here over four years and have been fielding this question the whole time.

Those dealers may honestly have heard the rumor from someone else but have they bothered to check it out? No - they'd rather talk you into buying a marker they already have in stock. Maybe one that you'll have to replace again next year. Okay, I said MAYBE. I swear some of these dealers must have been saying this same thing for the past 12 years or so, too.

I haven't missed a paycheck and neither has anyone else here.

Course if anyone wants to help out, the thing to do would be to go back to a dealer who has rumorized us and say "Well, AGD is doing just fine and since you don't sell their stuff, I won't be shopping here for my marker after all."

Marcia
AGD-OfficeGal

Very well said.

Unfortunately, the two shops near me aren't carrying very much AGD stuff. One carries almost primarily cockers...the other carries a mix of stuff...they have one classic mag on the wall...but they've really been heavy in Tippmann high end stuff and Tippmann sponsors alot of their games and field stuff.

Even though I think it's just a rumor, it is a concern. I'd just hate to get another mag or invest alot into it only to have AGD pull a "Brass Eagle" and make it almost impossible to get parts/upgrades. Actually, that's what I really like about Mags right now is the parts and upgrades are plentiful...whether directly from AGD, AO, Ebay, or other internet sources. Other than maybe Kingman, I can't think of a company that invests so much in helping people fix/upgrade markers that may be 5-7 years old. Alot of companies want you to ditch that "older version" to get their new, electric, annodized, robotic, bionic, phat, agged, silly 2006 model that is guranteed to fire at 36bps.

A couple other things from posts...I appreciate that AGD still pays attention to scenario/woodsball players...many companies have forgotten us.

As to Scott's paintball pricing post...nobody is asking for paintballs at $25 a case...but $40 would be nice...and no I don't want Brass Eagle paint...but I also don't need paint with pictures of naked ladies on them or etched with my team name. As to the people who say they gladly pay $120/case because they used to pay $150...you must be paying in Canadian or something...no paint is worth that much.

[peewee]

We can regularly get paint for $35 to $45 a case . But you get what you pay for in the $35 range.

[11 Bravo]

Thanks for your answers everyone. I guess I'll go and start mailing Tunaman then. I've visited the other webshops like airsmith but they don't seem to sell the original parts I'm looking for.
I would hate to say goodbye to my just (almost) completed X-mag.

But I still think it is very strange for a so-called 'alive & kikin' company to have what seems a radio-silence around their webstores...

I regularly order from AGD and have had no problems or delays. I have also seen plenty of AGD parts on the Airsmith website. Maybe you just missed them.

[MadPSIence]

if anything, AGD's customer service is as good as ever. They aren't flooded or busy so I've found they take great care in doing business prompt and well. I got 2 long emag screws (sounds soo dirty) in 1 week from ordering. I'm in Canada and had it sent regular snail mail.

[Lohman446]

The mark up on paint is astronomical. It coudl come down a little. At least $10-15 a case would be a nice reduction. And it would be totally doable for the dealers and the manufactorers.

?? I take it you have inside knowledge of that? Because I know what my field pays for paint (shipped) and what they sell it for... I don't think its that bad.

[Aslan]

paint prices

?? I take it you have inside knowledge of that? Because I know what my field pays for paint (shipped) and what they sell it for... I don't think its that bad.

The only inside knowledge I have is that the same paint that used to be $39.99/case when the field I go to was BYOP is now $59.99/case. It's decent paint...it's just another $20 and you have no choice but to buy it.

I actually like to try different kinds of paint. It ain't that the field paint isn't good...it is...but I like trying different kinds of paint at fields...to see how different paint acts and to see how different paint/gun combinations or paint/barrel combinations work.

Fields say it's for "insurance reasons"...but that's garbage. It's money...selling 60 cases a day vs. selling 7 cases a day. What fields take for granted is that the people will still come...sometimes that's a correct assumption...sometimes not. One local field changed to BYOP because people just stopped going there. Another field changed to field paint only...probably because they felt they could suffer losing a few people compared to the extra money they'd get from the paint.

[Pouget]

Why is airguns in court with smartparts??

What's with the patents?

[11 Bravo]

I think thats all over now.

[Lohman446]

The only inside knowledge I have is that the same paint that used to be $39.99/case when the field I go to was BYOP is now $59.99/case. It's decent paint...it's just another $20 and you have no choice but to buy it.

I actually like to try different kinds of paint. It ain't that the field paint isn't good...it is...but I like trying different kinds of paint at fields...to see how different paint acts and to see how different paint/gun combinations or paint/barrel combinations work.

Fields say it's for "insurance reasons"...but that's garbage. It's money...selling 60 cases a day vs. selling 7 cases a day. What fields take for granted is that the people will still come...sometimes that's a correct assumption...sometimes not. One local field changed to BYOP because people just stopped going there. Another field changed to field paint only...probably because they felt they could suffer losing a few people compared to the extra money they'd get from the paint.

The price is an isolated incident. What ballers seem to misunderstand is that. well they want better and better facilities they also want cheaper and cheaper prices. We do not have a paintball "behometh" company yet that can offer, due to immense scale, the best prices and the best facilities. Well not always the case fields prices reflect the type of services and facilities they offer.