Ideas to save mags thread

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  • phantomhitman
    ao's official bad guy
    • Oct 2003
    • 1841

    #31
    Originally posted by RogueFactor
    The same can be said for CCI and Palmers. Yet, both do quite well.

    Both very very small companies with small inventories, so their "quite well" isnt big company "quite well". They make great products and usually do not produce tons of product like everyone else. They are not a "production company" either being almost a 1 man show. You see more mags at scenario games/rec games/woodsballers than pumps or old school guns, which means they are not selling guns by the boatloads. There is always a pump player here or there, but they are not big populations in any event.
    Point is, the have the smallest, most niche market in paintball. On top of that they make great products which equals them sellign the small amount of inventory they have. Plaina nd simple, agd is done in the mainstream world unless they make a new gun.
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    • Recon by Fire
      Enimo Et Fide
      • Mar 2003
      • 1706

      #32
      Is there are saving the Mag? I'm not sure anymore... Maybe they will just always be around hiding and appreciated by a small group of players.

      I inquired recently about possibly letting my X-Mag go to fund other projects, what was the response? :::crickets::: You cannot sell one unless you give it away

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      • phantomhitman
        ao's official bad guy
        • Oct 2003
        • 1841

        #33
        (thread was how to save mags, not how small companies can still make guns and stay afloat)

        there are alot of pump players at rec/scenario/woodsball events/games, but they are quite insiginificant to the number of semis.

        i was simply saying agd will never be a mainstream, big company if the current state of agd retains. i know they were never huge, but they have also never been this unproductive. i really dont care what agd does, and i hope no hope or dreams of them ever doing anything else. if they do, then great for them, but all of the fanboys have to understand that agd's goals were not to take over the paintball world. it is a great company owned by a great man, but no amount of internet woulda/coulda/shoulda can bring them back.

        agd's hand had been dealt, played, and folded, either they can walk away or get a new dealer.......
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        • tae
          Registered User
          • Sep 2005
          • 275

          #34
          Ive been thinking, why isnt there a gas thru rail?

          Sorry if its a bit off the topic.

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          • Automaggot68

            #35
            Originally posted by tae
            Ive been thinking, why isnt there a gas thru rail?

            Sorry if its a bit off the topic.
            There was.
            It was called the Automag RT

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            • rkjunior303
              I need this more than you
              • May 2003
              • 4029

              #36
              Originally posted by Automaggot68
              There was.
              It was called the Automag RT

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              • Automaggot68

                #37
                Originally posted by rkjunior303
                OH ROB, YOU CARD YOU.

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                • peewee
                  AGD,ICD,CCM & CCI (Gunho!)
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 1400

                  #38
                  :hail: AGD :hail: CCI :hail:

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                  • Vex
                    Superiorly Inferior
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 1871

                    #39
                    Has anyone thought about how Mags are doing over in Europe? Could AGDE be a big contributor to AGD's profit?

                    Just a thought.
                    Last edited by Vex; 11-17-2005, 01:56 AM.
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                    • shartley
                      paintball player
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 9169

                      #40
                      Originally posted by phazeshifter
                      Has anyone thought about how Mags are doing over in Europe? Could AGDE be a big contributor to AGD's profit?

                      Just a thought.
                      No, since from what I understand they are technically different companies. AGDE is not simply a European branch of AGD which still answers directly to AGD and share the same financial setup.

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                      • Vex
                        Superiorly Inferior
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 1871

                        #41
                        Originally posted by shartley
                        No, since from what I understand they are technically different companies. AGDE is not simply a European branch of AGD which still answers directly to AGD and share the same financial setup.
                        Okay. I wasn't sure about that.
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                        • tae
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 275

                          #42
                          I meant a gas thru for the standard valves. Do people love hoses that much?

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                          • Lohman446
                            Useful posts: 7
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 9315

                            #43
                            Originally posted by shartley
                            No, since from what I understand they are technically different companies. AGDE is not simply a European branch of AGD which still answers directly to AGD and share the same financial setup.
                            Except they don't answer to AGD at this point and are, I beleive, an NPS distributor. It was one of the factors in the demise of the X-mag, AGDE simply did not have time to produce bodies.
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                            • Cow hunter
                              300fps=204.54mph
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 1521

                              #44
                              i do remember one person saying, "why would AGD still have their doors open if they werent planning something? probably somthing totally revolutionary and secret...... totally world changing for paintball like the HPA" i think this might be going somwhere........ could it be possible they are planning somthing? what good does it do to try to keep their doors open when they're not making much money anymore.....

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                              • Lohman446
                                Useful posts: 7
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 9315

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Cow hunter
                                i do remember one person saying, "why would the mags still have their doors open if they werent planning something? probably somthing totally revolutionary like HPA" i think this might be going somwhere........ could it be possible they are planning somthing? what good does it do to try to keep their doors open when they're not making much money anymore.....
                                Noone here, well at least very few, know what AGD is doing financially. Those that do know are not saying it. Palmers has survived for years as a niche company, what is to keep someone from thinking AGD could? In business, big business is not always the goal. People here need to consider this. As long as AGD satisfies TKs goals in a risk / rewards ratio he is satisfied with, than it is successful, he may just measure success differently than mass sales.
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