"Im ok with capped 15BPS ramping" - opinions?

[magsRus]

I think it is Capped at 15BPS because they had a dart board and the dart hit either triple 5 or single 15 :rofl:

[68magOwner]

im "A OK" with ramping, almost everything i play is in psp mode, and, it dosent bother me in the least. I recently started using a revvy in psp mode, so, im not even shooting the full 15bps, and, im fine with that. I dont think its more dangerous, i dont think it takes away from the game, and i think it DOES reduce cheating, which, was the point of it in the first place.

[etjoyride]

I agree with the 1 pull 1 ball theory. I can lane pretty fast on an electro in true semi, but i don't think i can hold 15BPS for longer then 2-3 sec.(and everyone says i have fast fingers). The way i figure it, if you can pull 19BPS in true semi then you should be allowed to, but if you have to use ramping for it then whats the point?

[mobsterboy]

i personally only use ramping because my local field has their team practice at or above 15 bps, and if my natural skills of getting to 15+ bps arent getting used, why not ramp? I do have to say tho, its wierd. I dont really like the way it feels right now, but i guess i'll either get used to it or go back to semi on my angel

[phantomhitman]

Here is a question, why do you keep bringing this up lohman? There are so many arguments and threads about this, mainly centering on you and your astm facts, that there is no need to make another. You have made a few therads about it, as well as chimed in on every single started by someone else.
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Those are just a FEW examples. There is nothing to argue about ramping, you are either fine with it and walk onto the field or you hate it and just boycot ramping games. People call it whatever they want but the facts are all misconstrued and some people just type what they hear instead of know. There are already "misinformed" people in this therad. Just leave the ramping issue alone, you have beat it to death. When someone finally gets hurt THEN make a thread saying
I TOLD YOU SO!!11!!
Until then people are just messing up their keyboards.

[Lohman446]

Here is a question, why do you keep bringing this up lohman? There are so many arguments and threads about this, mainly centering on you and your astm facts, that there is no need to make another. You have made a few therads about it, as well as chimed in on every single started by someone else.
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Those are just a FEW examples. There is nothing to argue about ramping, you are either fine with it and walk onto the field or you hate it and just boycot ramping games. People call it whatever they want but the facts are all misconstrued and some people just type what they hear instead of know. There are already "misinformed" people in this therad. Just leave the ramping issue alone, you have beat it to death. When someone finally gets hurt THEN make a thread saying
I TOLD YOU SO!!11!!
Until then people are just messing up their keyboards.

Because, my current view on ramping is that I do not beleive it is dangerous. I was just curious of the feeling "Im ok with ramping but only at 15BPS"

[phantomhitman]

So are you going to post again when you hate ramping, and then again when you used ramping one game, and then again when you feel its needs to be discussed again? It is getting rediculous reading this over and over.
You either have secret feeling for this issue or you are flip flopping how you feel. In earlier posts you hated it, and then you said you are against it because of the "criminal act" that could follow a ramping incident. Now you are ok with it but you just want to know how others feel?! Dead horse man...dead horse

[PaintballSmurf13]

i think that the 15bps cap is a very interesting idea. I believe it basically makes all guns equal, at a reasonable speed, so that more focus can be put into the other aspects of the game.

I personally don't like it because i can shoot a lot faster than 15bps

[Lohman446]

So are you going to post again when you hate ramping, and then again when you used ramping one game, and then again when you feel its needs to be discussed again? It is getting rediculous reading this over and over.
You either have secret feeling for this issue or you are flip flopping how you feel. In earlier posts you hated it, and then you said you are against it because of the "criminal act" that could follow a ramping incident. Now you are ok with it but you just want to know how others feel?! Dead horse man...dead horse

In earlier posts I Have said I had used it. I am ok with it on a safety / competetive level, but have an issue with personally using it because of liability. Its not that complex. I point out again, don't bother reading it, the thread title was pretty clear.

BTW, what does your post possibly contribute to any portion of this discussion? What purpose does it have?

[phantomhitman]

To put it simple I am just getting tired of the ramping issue. Everytime I read about it your name goes along with it. I am not just flaming you, but if you are invovled in every ramping thread by either starting it, or arguing with everyone about, it starts getting old.

Here is my opinion on your question
15 is the fastest the pro players could pull, so th flattened the playing field and capped the guns (that is the bs answer psp gave). Since only a few people could legally pull 15 or faster they just picked that and went with it. I honestly think they are not smart enough, or do not want to spend the cash to build a robot that test every single gun, to stop the cheaters. If you just cap the guns you basically let everyone go full auto and just measure the bps rate. Less time consuming to check, less money involved. I think you should send them an email stating your astm facts just to see what answer you would get back.

[Lohman446]

To put it simple I am just getting tired of the ramping issue. Everytime I read about it your name goes along with it. I am not just flaming you, but if you are invovled in every ramping thread by either starting it, or arguing with everyone about, it starts getting old.

Here is my opinion on your question
15 is the fastest the pro players could pull, so th flattened the playing field and capped the guns (that is the bs answer psp gave). Since only a few people could legally pull 15 or faster they just picked that and went with it. I honestly think they are not smart enough, or do not want to spend the cash to build a robot that test every single gun, to stop the cheaters. If you just cap the guns you basically let everyone go full auto and just measure the bps rate. Less time consuming to check, less money involved. I think you should send them an email stating your astm facts just to see what answer you would get back.

Who am I arguing with. We are having a discussion. Rogue and I may disagree on parts of it for instance, but I would not say anything in here was arguing.

[phantomhitman]

forget it, just carry on

[Arstron]

My thoughts on tournament rules and ramping...

10 bps for people ramping
15 bps for people shooting pure semi

Correct me if im wrong, but ramping was invented to even the field so slower shooting players can compete with faster shooting players. 10 bps is plenty fast enough for anyone, thats fast enough to empty a case of paint in 3.3 minutes. I have heard that people with ramping like it becuse they can run and shoot easier, thats fine, again 10 bps is plenty fast enough for that. Now if you are going to give people that use ramping advantages, why not give people that use pure semi and can pull the trigger fast enough an advantage also? I dont think anyone needs 15 bps personaly, but it would give people an incentive not to use ramping and a chance to choose how they want to play.

My other thoughts is to get rid of ramping and set a 10 bps limit that way the people that cant shoot fast arent so "helpless"

[KRAKMT]

[Lohman446]

But is it reasonable to shoot 15 bps at someone? Reasonable as defined by your grandmother. How would your grandmother decide knowing the 15bps was in violation of a safety standard. You may think it is crap but a jury was sympathetic to the dumb skydiver.

Obviously you are more knowledgeable than I am - but its basically what I was told when I brought it up in discussion with someone who knows. If you are ever asked to defend your actions in a sport, can you say "I had to do it to keep up, to compete" and have that be enough to sway a non-player's opinion?